QotW: What car is not worth preserving?

Cressida wagon bump

Recently the JNC wagon, our daily driven 1986 Cressida, was backed into, smashing the headlight, front bumper and fender. That’s the danger with driving your beloved classic around. Add years of rock chips and other indignities suffered during LA driving and it’s enough to make us consider getting a guilt-free daily driver.

What car is not worth preserving?

With the exception of blue chip classics like the Toyota 2000GT or Nissan Skyline GT-R, JNCs tend to be cars that were once thought of as disposable but which are now becoming collectible. Is there a car, from any year or continent but easily available in the US today, that you can drive into the ground without the slightest pang of remorse?

What say you, dear reader? As always, the most entertaining comment by next Monday will receive a prize. Scroll down to see the winner of last week’s QotW, “What’s the best shade of JNC orange?” 


The winner last week was Mr. Northcove, who clinched a victory despite calling us car nerds. His answer:

“QotW: What’s the best shade of JNC orange?” That question is so delightfully car-nerdy! Love it! My vote would go to the shade Toyota used on the TE27.

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60 Responses to QotW: What car is not worth preserving?

  1. Dano says:

    The Pontiac Aztek.
    Only one should be preserved, in order to serve as a reminder for future generations.

  2. atx says:

    Unless the rust or wreck gods have gotten it, they are all worth saving in my opinion. They may be cheap now, but they are so simple and usually cheap to fix that they should all be given a new home whenever possible instead of junked.

  3. Brad D. says:

    NOT worth saving? I don’t think that exists. A new car, sure, buy it, drive it, don’t worry about it. BUT….if you come upon a car that has made 25 years and is still in good shape, treat it a little different. Its made it that far, it is now an anomaly on the roads and I guarantee that someone will see it out driving around and appreciate it. That does not mean do not drive it, quite the opposite, drive it is much as possible, let the public see it and have their own nostalgic memories when they do. I daily drive my ’80 Colt. Its not perfect, but it sure garners a lot of comments and thumbs up when I drive it. Its interesting, people like it and makes my commute more fun. People smile and wave and the only finger I get is the thumbs up.

  4. Dutch 1960 says:

    Since this is open to cars from all continents, that makes it easy. Ford F-150. Any year, any version. There are gazillions of them out there, their high bumpers actually endanger the JNCs in parking lots and at stop lights, and the big Fords are designed to be beaten up and wrung out. Like weeds in a garden, get rid of all of them you can, and more always show up. No risk of running out of them, ever.

  5. Louis Fong says:

    I think it’s the Corolla KE70. There’s like a million of those around the world getting beat up everyday, whether it’s a daily or weekend car. There’s just too many of them & the spare parts are still very easy to find.

    • Ryan Senensky says:

      We have like 5 of those in Minnesota, its like the Mustang of classic Toyotas. Common but none the less a good car.

    • Yoda says:

      I drove one to the junkyard in the mid ’90s. It was so badly rusted that I’m not sure if there was enough left to call it a Corolla (how much of a car constitutes a quorum?), needed a roll start since the starter had called it a day some months before, could only be gassed up three gallons at a time (anything more would just leak out), but it ran, and that engine’s probably still running somebody’s milking machine.

  6. Greyfox says:

    I don’t think anyone will be missing those old Korean cars… They were cheap, nasty and fell apart easily… The old Hyundai Excels can be bought dime a dozen and don’t even have a taco-meter. Big unattractive women buy them and put stickers like ‘Sexy Bitch’ on them… Mitsubishi Sigma is probably another one that could be consigned to the scrapheap of history without many complaints.

  7. Ryan Senensky says:

    Any version of Chrysler PT Cruiser ever.

  8. JHMAB2 says:

    That’s an impossible to say. Who knows what makes a car a classic, I mean those AE86 Corollas? Up until a couple years ago I figured they were old lady grocery getters, now they demand crazy high prices. Civic wagons? The hell? Those ugly awkward shaped boxes? Then outta nowhere they were the Civic to turn into crazy creations, also demanding high prices, especially the RT4WD models.

    What next? Toyota Vans from the 80s? A 1998 Galant? A 1995 Accord Wagon? What about the newest Mirage?

    Know what I think? I think it’s the everyday cars that we take for granted, till one day most are beaten and they become hard to find. A group of nostalgic feeling people in 2040 think, “Hey, when I was a kid I used to love seeing those 2002 Civics when I was a kid. Now I hardly see them anymore, I think I’ll find one of the few nice examples left in this world then clean it up and fix it up.”

    Now, when the right person chooses this random car (you know, bigger name people in communities) and does it right, it’ll eventually turn into a classic. So my guess is, the car that everyone says won’t be a classic, it probably will end up being one through neglect. I’m not sure about the Korean cars though, then again, I’m sure that’s what everyone said about Japanese cars in the 70’s and 80’s

  9. JHMAB2 says:

    I need to stop writing these at work and pay more attention to grammar. Ha! We need an edit function for people like me trying to write these out quickly before the boss comes around. =P

  10. cesariojpn says:

    The Toyota Camry. Ya still have the 80’s cars still plying the roads with god knows how many miles on the same engine it went out of the factory with, and the 90’s cars are starting to get high in the teeth. Given the Camry is now billed as nothing more than a “Beige Appliance,” and being sold as a common car, I don’t think preserving one is even feasible except for an extreme circumstance.

    • mister k says:

      whoa! horsey there’s a couple guys who’d vehemently disagree with you and who cherish their camrys! one in austria and the other in ukraine

    • Jim-Bob says:

      The thing is, they do a pretty good job of preserving themselves, hence their popularity as cars for people who aren’t into cars. Granted they aren’t exciting, but extreme reliability is an awesome quality in an automobile. For lower income folks it can be an economic x factor that helps them stretch their money that little bit further. Thus I can’t really fault the Camry. It does what it was designed to do and does it extremely well.

  11. Bart says:

    This is a great question, but it’s almost like saying, “If you had six children, which one of them would you consider sacrificing to Beezlebub to save the world?” What car nut can even make this kind of choice? True car people can respect and admire any well kept vehicle, even ones they don’t technically “like”. For as much as I like the Isuzu marque, I cannot lie. The gen2 I-marks (Geminis) are pug ugly in my opinion, but I still think they deserve to be saved! Don’t even get me started on the Isuzu Stylus (more like Style-less) because it is about as bland as a bag of flour!

    When I got into Isuzus, it was because of my VehiCROSS. It’s such a unique and fun vehicle. I loved it so much I felt after five years of enjoyment, it was time to garage and baby it. But I still needed something to use as my camping and adventure rig. Enter my first gen1 Trooper. I thought, “this is my banger! Who cares what happens to it! Drive it into the ground!” But its charms and old-school good looks got the better of me, and I was determined to find the best example I could. I have that now, and in some ways I wish I had a second one that I could basically just thrash on for fun. So from my perspective, a beat up, high mileage gen1 Trooper would be a good candidate for not preserving and cherishing. Just drive it until it peters out on the side of the road. They are still common enough (out West anyway) and not yet valued enough to really dump a bunch of money into on a restore. And as long as they are mechanically sound, they can be easily maintained and you can beat the hell outta them and they won’t bat an eye. They are infinitely useful, big on the inside, and get good enough gas mileage for an SUV to make it worth while.

    That said, if you come across a really well kept, rust free, clean gen1 Trooper, don’t write it off! Appreciation for these rigs, although no where near the level of Land Cruisers, is slowly on the rise!

    • JHMAB2 says:

      Your story on getting a Trooper is exactly how I am with everything I get my hands on.

      “Oh, I’ll get this old Civic wagon to commute to work everyday. I could care less about it. I’m not even a Civic fan”

      Next thing I know I’m looking up OEM JDM floor mats, and ripping the interior out to do thorough cleaning.

  12. dickie says:

    Hyundai Tiburons seemed to radiate complete worthlessness even when they were brand new. The owner demographic for used examples somehow manages to scrape the proverbial barrel bottom without ever showing signs of hitting the metal.

    I’ve discussed the Scion tC in-depth before and I won’t bother with copy/pasting any part of those diatribes here. Suffice it to say, it fills a uniquely pointless place in the model lineup and caters to a specific set that pretty much ensures few examples will survive past a second owner.

    New cars are all easy targets though; they lack the requisite character needed to attain sentimental value with age. As the 90s came to a close, we saw the death of quite a few long-running nameplates and a transition into mediocrity for several others. To properly answer the question of the week, I’m aiming for something with a little more relevance to the subject matter this site is known for. It’s going to be:

    1. Japanese
    2. Notable in its time
    3. Classic or near-classic status

    The 25-year rule has been a boon for those of us with later-model machinery in our garage, simultaneously enhancing the value while making the cost of registration, maintenance and insurance more affordable. Some of the newly-inducted “classics” won’t be benefiting, however.

    The foremost contender for that dubious title is the Isuzu I-Mark RS/LS. Intended to take a swipe at the burgeoning sporty compact segment and featuring a “Lotus tuned” suspension, the RS version managed to wheeze out an anemic 125hp in its most robust incarnation. Joe Isuzu’s Flachbau-driving nemeses said it best: “That’s an economy car!” and he couldn’t have been more right. The tagline for the commercial was “… under $10,000,” which slots in around the ~$19,500 mark today.

    Falling just behind the I-Mark is another unassuming economy sedan with a bastardized heritage that overshadowed its sporty intentions. First shown in 1989 as a 1990 model, the Geo Prizm GSi was a NUMMI product and a follow-on to the NovaRolla. A sport-tuned suspension, disc brakes and 14″(!) wheels were it’s selling points, but lift the hood of any junkyard denizen GSi and you might be surprised to see a redtop 4A-GE staring back at you. Built on the AE92 platform (thus its Japanese heritage) by GM workers (thus its inherently low value), they’re worth exactly scrap value these days. It’s not a huge secret these were packing high-compression twin cam Toyota power under the hood, and I can say that I have pulled one destined for an AE86 as I’m sure countless others have.

    If you can find one of these cars and you’re itching to buy, you’d be better off hacking it into a Chumpcar or Lemons entry than you would restoring or preserving it.

    • Yuri says:

      As someone who’s been trying to hunt down a Prizm GSi for a while, I politely disagree with your statement. Like the Nova TwinCam, it’s a cool little example of rebranded Corolla with Factory 4AGE power, when we couldn’t even get a 4AGE sedan in the US through Toyota.

      • dickie says:

        GL dude. i’ve come across exactly two in my life: my cousin had one, drove it until he killed it. We saw one other example in a junkyard and grabbed the engine, but even the rarity from so few remaining examples can’t help the value or collect-ability of these. not when you can easily find an FX16 GTS for under $2,000 but i can’t come up with even one listing for a GSi anywhere on the list of Craigs.

        provided you do get one and decide to go the route of restoration/preservation, you can look forward to being known (in some circles) as that one Prizm GSi guy. that’s sort of interesting!

        • Yuri says:

          Totally know what you mean. I’ve only found one in the junkyard, and saved the plain 4AGE cam covers (and sparkplug cover!) off it. Someday they’ll go into my AE86.

  13. Jim-Bob says:

    If I were to choose just one, it would be the Chevrolet Celebrity. A very forgettable car with few redeeming qualities other than being mediocre transportation and a staple of rental fleets during the 1980’s. It wasn’t particularly reliable, wasn’t all that good on gas, wasn’t nice to drive and didn’t look that good either. Given the choice, I would rather drive something Soviet, like a Lada 2107.

  14. J.A.C.K says:

    i’m going to go with early hyundai excels. they were huge piles of crap when they first came out and you almost none have made it long enough to ever be considered nostalgic. not trying to hate on hyundai, they’ve certainly come a long long way since then but yeah…a huge pile of crap.

  15. Yoda says:

    Ford Focus MkI SE automatic sedan – the fleet spec they spammed Hertz and Dollar lots with. Drive until rocker panels are too rusty to pass inspection, then gleefully cannibalize to keep a manual hatchback or wagon on the road.

  16. Jordan says:

    Any Mustang, ever.

  17. Gary says:

    Ben – whilst this seems crass making contact through here, I can’t find a way to contact you directly.

    We have parts for your Cressida!

    regards, Gary

  18. Iwakuni91 says:

    Off topic I know, but I submit to you that U.K. Top Gear, while a car show, does not actually appreciate cars. They answer your question of the day every time they have a some sort of special or contest where they show just how little they care for everyday cars regardless of their performance. So in short, here are five cars that have been butchered, spliced, sliced, and wrecked all in the name of “having fun with your mates.” And remember, all of these vehicles were original and in perfect running order. JNCers(?), I present to you five cars not worth saving according to Top Gear:
    5) Z32 Nissan Fairlady Z 2+2 twin turbo (hey I just threw one of your t-tops off the side of a
    mountain just so your car could get rained on while you drive! Hilarious!)
    4) Subaru WRX wagon (Africa race or the hey, let’s cut holes in each other’s cars! Again,
    hilarity ensues!)
    3) Mitsubishi Starion Turbo (Dirt raced it till it died. I mean really, what else would you do with
    a perfectly running TURBO Starion?)
    2) Nissan Sunny (what happens when a car meets a jet’s back blast?)
    5) Toyota pickup (the indestructible 1988 Hilux, until you know, after we destroyed it)

    Sometimes, after thinking about one of these shows, I dream of Goku dropping a spirit bomb on them and imagine them with with the look of Frieza’s fear in their eyes as the bomb slowly descends…

    • Randy says:


      There’s a promo running now where they turned a Starion into a “TURBOAT.” I remember them dropping the Toyota truck off some tower, setting it on fire, etc. (Damn thing still ran and drove, as I recall!) I think it died when they blew up the building it had been placed on. There was one episode – they ran one of their “challenge” cars with steam pouring out ’til the freakin’ engine seized. I don’t remember what it was, but it seemed to be a decent car.

      Anybody see the promos for the one with the “Peoples’ Cars?” “It’s downright atrocious,” or something to that effect. “It even looks like a buttock!”

      I want to see these pinheads live some of OUR lives; working overtime for some d-bag boss, so they can feed their kids and pay the rent; not driving the car of their dreams, but what they can afford, with the equal concerns of mpg and reliability. Okay, so these aren’t the technological marvels tooling around Dubai, but all that extra “refinement” costs money that REAL people don’t necessarily have to p!$$ away on transportation to the $#!+ job that pays their bills.

      There’s a recent post here on JNC with them running – I think it was a 1969 Carina – through the outback, to see if it would make it, to replicate someone’s journey from like, 1972. It wasn’t killed, as I recall, but come-freaking-on… It WAS the worse for wear.

      I can live without seeing the overpaid “‘star’ in the reasonably-priced car,” and really, that was the high point of any episode for me.

      BTW, I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I LOVED what was for us the 300ZX 2+2. Add the turbo and t-tops, and you are in my teen fantasy world. Didn’t have to be the all-out track racer. Comfortable, and still outperformed most vehicles of its time.

      I already plan to miss the new version of the program in the states.

    • cesariojpn says:

      The Starion was a non-turbo, but Jeremy put in a Turbo that was not properly rated for the engine

      • Randy says:

        Non-Turbo Starion? Never saw one, but I’ll assume it just wasn’t sold in the U.S.

        But how many Starions/Conquests have you seen – in the past year-or-two? Ya just don’t trash them and turn them into frickin’ boats.

        And gee, they put in the wrong turbo… Really? An internationally-aired program, and there’s nobody there to do two hours of online research? I’m shocked.

        Let’s get nuts and say a bare-bones Tredia/Cordia, with roll-up windows, vinyl interior, no air conditioning, and an AM-only radio; if it’s in decent shape, you STILL don’t do that. Use a 5-year-old BMW 3 series.

    • Yoda says:

      At least they haven’t dropped any large musical instruments on any JNCs…

  19. Randy says:

    I’ll go with Brad D. and atx on this one; if it’s gotten to the 25-year mark, then it’s not going to be the car to just drive into the ground. Unless it’s rusted or wrecked to the point of “just can’t do it,” then it should be preserved, and even after that, there are lots of good parts there for someone trying to keep theirs going.

    Similar to the question about the winter beater from a while back, nothing that’s rare or nostalgic, or classic, or antique, should be in this category.

    Would any of you really take the Corolla up top there, and run it into the ground? Sure, book value may be $200, but it ain’t something I’d use even every day in the summer. What would it take to repair any damage from Dutch’s errant F-150? While they probably aren’t particularly cash-valuable, how rare is a Camry 2-door, or Accord Wagon, nowadays? Wanna risk one of them?

    I don’t remember the last time I saw a Cressida… Used to be TWO VehiCrosses in my area; they’ve both disappeared; hopefully to caring owners.

    If you’re looking strictly Japanese, go with a post-2000 Corolla or Civic; Camry or Accord. Toyota or Nissan pickups/SUVs, if such is your lifestyle. Go with something that’s stupid-common and make it your own. Parts availability is an issue on the daily driver. You shouldn’t have to wait for parts to be shipped from Australia to fix your car in Oklahoma.

    If you open it up to American as well, Cavalier/Cobalt (non-SS). Too bad THEY weren’t available as wagons (at least in the U.S.; dunno about the Holden/Opel versions).

  20. simcain says:

    1991 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera, I bought one for $500, in 2007. It was my apprentice’s grandmothers car, dark red with a red interior, rust holes in the door panels, one could wave out the door through the rust holes. But I drove it 3 times across the country, from Detroit to Tacoma WA and back and than to Las Vegas via Phoenix. I think I changed the oil once in all those miles. I sold it to the scrap yard in LV for $200.
    But it got me to work everyday. I would leave it in the parking lot at the job In Las Vegas with all the windows rolled down, nobody was gonna steal this, and the west coast guys would be amazed at all the rust. Michigan road salt i would tell em.
    Whats really crazy to me was how primitive the car was. I grew up driving my Dad’s 91 Mazda Protege, Honda Civic VX and (when he didn’t know) a 94 Nissan SE-R (still the fastest I’ve ever driven 140mph downhill.) But to get back to the point, the Olds seats didn’t recline all the way back and the rearview mirrors were fixed. One size fits all I guess.

  21. gaijinshogun says:

    Easy. None. Every car was special to someone at sometime, and if they are still alive, they will preserve it. Just look at some of stuff on the JNC forums.

  22. Ben Hsu says:

    The dilemma I’m having is also that I’ll feel the need to preserve anything I get, from the lowliest Geo to the most boring Camry. Perhaps the solution is to get a completely ubiquitous car like a Honda CR-V in base trim and silver paint so there will be no guilt whatsoever in letting it dented and scraped in everyday LA driving.

    • Randy says:

      Can you acquire one that’s already gotten the scratches, dents and rust?

      Seriously, if you buy it as functional POS that nobody will steal, you’re miles ahead. If it’s silver, you don’t even have to wash it! I’m not kidding about that… Vacuum the interior, add all the Wal-Mart accessories, whether “cool” or “tacky.” Base-model steel wheels, with the $20 wheel covers. Pinstripe-that-leads-back-to-flames graphic?

      Crap, now I’m building exactly that in my head…

      Maybe, in a year or 2, sand off the rust, prime it and do the undercoating below the rub strip.

    • Randy says:

      There was a service I saw that would tell you how many of your specific year/make/model were registered in the state. I don’t remember if it was a private company that did it, or if it was something the state did – if anybody knows about this. Might be available in CA.

      You can find out just how rare your wagon is. Odds are, you’ll be surprised.

    • gaijinshogun says:

      You know it. There is a Rover “three thousand five S” in my neighborhood that is being ignored after the owner passed on and gave it to a new owner for payment for yard services. This site is about JNC’s, but the story is the same. It’s a cool car it’s in own way, but one that most don’t appreciate. Unfortunately, I am one of those that appreciate what is special about it, but have no need or time for it. It was a loved car in great shape, now in the hands of the wrong owner. if I don’t save it will go to…

    • JHMAB2 says:

      I thought an old 320,000 mile ’91 Civic Wagon would be the answer to my identical problem, yet here I am parking it in front of my office window making sure it’s OK.

  23. Ken S. says:

    1989 and 1992 Ford Taurus.

    Those two years of Tauruses(Taurusi?) got me through high school & college, while practical, I feel like I lost out good 8 years of my life where I could’ve been getting acquainted with a beat up 510 or something JNC to change my life.

    Not to mention the ’89 started to have frame issues just from me getting on it (I was 16), and the ’92 blew a head gasket, which I had come to find out is a manufacturing defect, and Ford covered it via recall only to ’95 and up.

  24. Ryan says:

    Mazda road pacer, may it forever burn in hell…

  25. Spudenater says:

    The 8th gen (’96-’03) Mitsubishi Galant. In all my days of scouring craigslist, used car lots, and even just city streets, I have never seen one of these things that made me say “Yeah, that’s a nice Galant.” I don’t know what it is about these things that seem to attract dents dings and scratches like no ones business, but even the relatively “straight” ones typically suffer from a case of UV sunburn and an interior redesign courtesy of a 3 year old with a cup of juice and a bad attitude.

    Moreover, for some reason, the 2% that make it through the bad-credit-no-credit, no-problem hell holes that they will inevitably end up in with no outward damage immediately become 20″ DUB riding, trunk lid rattling, bass boosted slabs with Captain Homeboy at the helm. Tacky Auto-Zone accessories not withstanding (lookin’ at you stick on chrome faux vent things).

    The icing on any Galant cake is usually a burnt out tail light and some light blue smoke at take off, to be paired to a paint code that looks like they ought to color the inside of a nursing home with. And they are everywhere. Like one of those dirty mirror mazes they have at the state fair, you look at them, and they stare out at you from all the strip mall parking lots and low end apartment complexes. In their silent agony they await their turn in the crusher, alongside whatever refuse the crest of the millennium has managed to cough up.

    They are like that beige Compaq PC that haunts the boxes your garage. Like the handful of beanie babies that huddle in the corner of the guest room closet. They are that work out equipment you’ve had for 5 years, and only used twice. Practically the embodiment of automotive entropy and detritus, the Galants are worthless.

  26. gypsy says:

    No old car that has badly deteriorated is worth preserving unless you have deep pockets or are willing to learn and do the work yourself. Both my coupe and sedan are perfect examples. My coupe would have easily cost over 50K to restore given the starting point, I did it for under 20K and 6 years of my spare time. The sedan would probably be more if I hadn’t hoarded parts to repair it years ago.

    The thing I find funny is people spending around $15k + for wrecks then getting quotes from panel shops and selling up ! I lost count of the hours that went into repairing the coupe because parts couldn’t be found, the sedan will be much easier as new parts were easier to find.

  27. lawrence says:

    Nissan Pulsar/Langley N12 4-door sedan & 5-door hatchback
    The only old car that never attract me. Weird tail light & roof line.

  28. miller says:

    Ford tempo, basically disposable, unchanged for 15 years and millions of old last perfect ones still running around, this does not take into account the awd tempo x my ex GF drove

  29. Slade Stockill says:

    How can you be in a comfortable office writing questions to jncers when you have a damn X7 wagon to fix.you selfish bastards;)

    I’m not man………..I’m just dissapointed;)

  30. Slade Stockill says:


  31. Greylopht says:

    I think I am going to make this one really plain and simple. What Japanese car that will become Nostalgic that should be completely flushed down the bin.

    The SAAB 9-2x. Yes in all respects it is a Japanese car, that will be a nostalgic just like the Impreza that it is.

    Problem is, General Motors placing a SAAB Badge on a Subaru. This is a bit of a improper thing to do. Swedish Mechanical design and feeling, are vastly different from Japanese.

    Besides really, how much of a markup on a hot Impreza for just a bit better interior (Marginal at best) and a bit of styling.

    No no, save one Aztec to remind folks what not to do. And then remove all the 9-2x’s from the world. After parting them out to keep other Subarus on the road of course.

    • Randy says:

      Well, how would that differ from saving a Geo, as it’s really Japanese?

      And as for the Aztec, there are entire clubs dedicated to the Edsel, which is still the definition of “business flop,” Automotive oddities.

    • Mike says:

      Nothing wrong with a prettier WRX that comes with the tighter STI steering box, full options list, better sound deadening, etc. Considering their rarity (especially the 2006 aero), I see a future classic. My 2 cents.

  32. Liam says:

    First-gen Saturns . . . dentless bodies (loved those shopping cart commercials), but ultimately disposable for all the right reasons.

  33. Mike says:

    North America’s High Volume Low Quality Car title would go to the Chevy Chevette of the 70s – 80s (and Pontiac twin). The definition of a utilitarian “car”.

    My nomination for Asia’s Disposable Car would go to South Korea’s Hyundai Pony. Sold in huge numbers to Canadians who were thrilled by a low purchase price and features but agonized by their ultimate low quality/reliability. Mitsubishi engine/trans; misc. parts from the Ford Cortina. Hyundai has sure has come a long way.

  34. simon says:

    well this a little late to the ball, but its off to hide its ugly face in the shadows……..the mazda 121 aka “rice crispy”

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