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 Post subject: A mythical Toyota AA or "just" Chrysler Airflow?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:50 am 
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A guy from Russia claims he bought a genuine Toyota AA (or what has remained of it).

Pls follow the link below to see pictures he presented to prove himself
http://forums.drom.ru/1079576831-post250.html

To me it looks much like Airflow, but the lucky brand-new owner claims it is a REAL AA (just to remind you: even Toyota Museum doesn't have a real AA specimen, they had to make a replicar for their exhibition).

What're your bets on this case?[/b]


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:20 am 
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i bet it's an airflow
here's toyota's aa:
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:50 am 
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Said car:

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Airflow.. split screen.. did it came with single screen?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:30 pm 
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Looks more like the AA based on the first picture.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:04 pm 
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...but the grill looks like Chrysler.
the lines of hood of the Russian car wraps around like a half-circle while the AA hood has a bump in the middle for the front fascia/grill.
I forgot to circle the location of the windshield wipers.
It really looks like an AA body, but with parts from other cars (like Chrysler) that was fitted on.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:08 pm 

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sure looks like the toyota AA

as often done in russia to keep things on the road, this car has under gone some major changes.
split windscreen
hood and grill
and many other things. probably has a russian motor as well.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:21 pm 
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true, the car is reported having been heavily rebuilt using so many alien details. It was also converted to LHD

Finally, it even has BMW documents!

but the fact is, AFAIK none of the AA survived until today.

the owner posted more pictures today:
http://forums.drom.ru/1079692953-post289.html

could it be the only real AA, even with so many changes?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:34 pm 

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i think this car could be of some value if sold right away to some toyota collector either to be restored as possible or as the remains of the last original AA


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:02 pm 
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SharmCos wrote:
Airflow.. split screen.. did it came with single screen?


google search turned up no airflows without split rear windscreens ... the plot thickens 8)


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:40 pm 
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blackhole wrote:
i think this car could be of some value if sold right away to some toyota collector either to be restored as possible or as the remains of the last original AA


If it was me I'd sell to Toyota Japan. They would pay millions for it huh?

I'll start looking for an AA in my country lol


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:27 pm 

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Send the pics via Email to Toyota, I bet they will pay a lot of money for this car! This HAS to be in the Museum, doenst matter if restored or not.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:13 pm 
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I carefully studied the pictures and comparing them to both the Toyota AA and the Chrysler Airflow. I think this car very well might be a Toyota AA. I know modifing them is common practice in Russia to fix them or keep them on the road. The most compelling evidence are the three accent pieces on the sides of the front fenders. They seem to be identical to the AA's. Also, the hood on the car in question wraps over to the top of the fender. The Airflow hood stops well short of meeting the fender. To get this effect from a Airflow would take restructering the whole front end, and I think a simple modify or repair wouldn't go so far.

I am really excited, this might be the true lone survivor.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:58 pm 
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I sincerely doubt it might be a Toyota, although there is a very small possibility (maybe a greater chance for it to be the Model AC). Just Google Chrysler Airlow or Desoto Airflow and you will see a whole bunch of countless possibilities - from what I've seen there are endless variations. This car seems to have bits and pieces that are common to many of those cars.

See: How to identify an Airflow

How about asking the Airflow guys what they think? - Airflow Club

I say the verdict is out until more photos and or measurements can be taken.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:34 pm 
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wow
i hope its real


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 7:46 am 

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American cars in Russia, especially in the earlier days, were almost not possible, so I doubt it´s a Chrysler or some other US-car.

Russia has a long tradition in importing used cars from Japan, so it´s more than possible this car got imported from Japan many years ago. The possibiliy of being a Toyota AA is very high!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:33 pm 

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the thing that tells me that it is indeed the AA is the stripes in front of the front doors
front door hinges
the side windows
the line that curves over the rear side window.

there are so many things that are exactly the same as the AA but only resemble the airflow.

someone should try and contact the owner and make sure that he does not do anything to the car until toyota in japan or other places have been contacted about this car.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:22 pm 
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I can tell you with certainty it's not an airflow. Too small, side windows look too tall. Airflows also never had a split rear door window like that (only two door rear quarter windows). And airflow side windows are like mail slots in comparison

Biggest tell to me? Look at those stampings on the sides of the front. They match the museum AA perfectly, and no Airflow ever had that.

Even if it were an Airflow, while not as rare of a find, it's certainly quite a feat, as they're very valuable cars and definitely style icons. But I'm telling you, there's no way in hell that's an Airflow.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:29 pm 

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so who is going to take the job of contacting toyota about this find?


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:12 pm 
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blackhole wrote:
so who is going to take the job of contacting toyota about this find?


Working on it... :tu:

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cool keep us posted.


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