I totally forgot to update this site,
loads of old news ,copie paste sorrie
Spent some time in my garage today.
How to lower the rear shocks.
I took a civic 88/99 spring seat .The steal bush in the rubbers dont fit the EB strut stem.But you can swap the steal bush ,just press it in.No need to shorten it .It fits!
Left New ,right Old EB
Why use that spring seat?The rubber mounting is sitting on top of the seat.If you mount it on the strut stem,the seat will fall deeper over the stem.
The distance between top seat and strut seat is shorter now.So now you can mount shorter springs.
I did not take the effort to find shorter springs,i cut and heated the oem's .
I dont know how much lowered it is now,still need to mount them on the car.
Now my version on lowering the front,
I wanted something like i did on the rear,but kept breaking my head on the bearing and turning movement of the complete set.
I had a sleapy night shift at work,and came with this idea
This is a rough sketch ,measuments are MILIMETERS(metric system)
This is after finishing .
What does it do?you will think?
As its hard for me to explain in english ,an other sketch
Now fitting it all,
First you find your lowerd spring,cut spring or heated spring,what ever you are used te do.
I'm been using cut springs for years on road cars,and it works 100% for me.
No coments on this way of lowering as topics have allready been filled with do's or don'ts
Place them on your strut and put the spring top on.
Place your bearing and seal like normal.
Now comes my bush/sleeve what ever you call it.
It will line your bearing nicely in the middle
Now your strut top would come..But due to my new bush it will not fit.
You need to file ,cut or drill the hole in the strut top to 22MM,so the it wil fit.
This pic is with my bush fitted in the strut top
Now you can put it all together,but to lock the complete shock you need the last part.The outer sleeve .
Without this sleeve your strut middle"piston/shaft" (whats the name?)wil pop out of the strut top when it bumps out while riding your car.
Just put the oem washer as normal,it wil push the outer sleeve down and locking the middle bush in the strut top
This is how it looks after fitting on the car.
You can see the is enough room between nut and hood,you could even make the bush/sleeve even longer,as the hood runs a bit round,and nod dead flat from left to right..I think you could make it to 50MM or more.
So,i you can use my brainstorm idea's
Is my englisch understandable?
Becouse i made several mistakes,its now time to tell,so that others wont
Deu to not reading the 4x100 how to on this site i mis used things.As pinions and control arms.
When i assembled my 2nd gen knuckles onto my sb1 i notised thad my new bearing had some "play"on it
When i drove it,the brake disk even scratched the calliper.
Settled for a couple days,and took it apart.
What went wrong.
After measuring a lot,i found out that the splines on the pinion are not long enough.In stead of locking the bearing,it now locked the splines.
Again did some researche here and read about this.
In stead of putting on some 2nd gen pinion it put it in my lathe.
Just to be sure the pinion would slide in to the knuckle far enough
Fit it al together ,and yep...its does the trick!!
Drove it again.No scraping sound anymore luckely
Stil it did not drive good.Loads of feedback on the steering wheel.
I had it lined out at a shop.
Found out that i had way to much positieve camber.
1stgencivic.com.....thanks again for the info.
Problem,i had to use 2nd gen lower arms,to compensate the knuckle.
But ,why not do it differend.
I was checking the scrapp metal containers at work and found something i could use almost plug and play.
I onely made the square part.Its just a solid block of metal ,with i drilled and tapped.
Something annyone can do with minor tools.
Than take a control arm.and start cutting..
And start welding TIG.
I cut out the rubberbushing out of the scrap piece control arm.I'm re using it,and put in my home made arm.
Than re alligne
Doing 4x100 swap the right way
To share some some info to you guys.
Here by a pictorial on how to swap to 4x100
On this site is already a tutorial on how to do it,BUT I dont like this onehttp://www.1stgencivic.com/world/c1zr/m ... hp?t=12530
Why is it that i dont like this one,I'v done it.But took it of after riding it and realignment .
Due to the fact that you use the lower control arm and 2nd gen hub ,your wheel span wil change big,it will widen out a lott!!
Now you will not be able to put wider wheels on your car.Your positive camber is still there .So steering is BAD.
This is what i recomment,this is what I think is best.
You can give reply's if you think I am not right,I dont mind
What do you need:
1st gen knuckles
1st gen brake callipers
2nd gen disk brake
2nd gen hub(4x100)
Wheel bearing (1st or 2nd gen ,both will fit)
2nd gen 80/83 pinion or modify the 1st gen item(shown later)
This is what a 2nd gen hub looks like with dust seal of 1st gen on.
1st gen dust seal on 2nd gen hub
1st gen hub with 2nd gen seal and visa versa
So now you know its fits!!
2nd gen knuckle and 1st gen knuckle
1st gen and 2nd gen bearings,both wil fit in 1st or 2nd gen knuckle!
Now beforen pressing it all together ,you need to shorten the bolt heads of the dust seal.When the 1st gen hub is fitted on the knuckle you got clearance couse its 4x120,so more space.
The 2nd gen is 4x100,so 20mm less clearance.
Grind of the bold heads,that is the easy way
Than put it al together,2nd gen hub in 1st gen knuckle
Than put 2nd gen disk brake on,and 1st gen brake callipers.
Now you are almost done
The pinion head of the 1st gen will not fit the hub,the splines run all the way on 2nd gen hubs,1st gens run 2/3 the way.
So you need to swap the pinion head to 2nd gen 80/83 on your axle.
I like it easy,1 just put my pinion on my lathe,and made more room on the spline track.Just made it a bit deeper,so the splines of the hub wil slide further on de pinion head.
I even made the swap better:
what i used
1st gen knuckles
2nd gen hub
2nd gen bearing
civic 92 brake booster and main cillinder
civic 92 vti brake calliper and disk
home made bracket
Stil rebuilding the engine,but that will be finished this afternoon i think.
I got time to test fit my new wheels.
Original VW 4x100 ET45 wheels.They need new tyres,but they look nice to me!!
Pickt up my wheels today,
I like um!
Inside they look brownish,outside the look more gold,and a sparkle apears in direct sunlight.
What you think?