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 Post subject: cheap options on a powerful motor for the 77' Corona?
PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:13 pm 
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..Well?This thing is uber-slow :td: sounds fast thanks to supertrapp,but man it is underpowered..

So what do you guys thing should be in there?I'd like to do something for $1500 or under..
-Small block chevy?
-Nissan(ick)sr20det?
-4age?

Any ideas?I need more power,bad.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:37 pm 

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lexus V8!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:57 pm 
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doesnt seem cheap^ :shock: sounds cool and i do know where a few are..plus it needs to be a stick..


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lexus ls400 are getting ultra cheap this side of the pond!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:13 pm 
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You can pick up a blacktop 4age for under 1k. spend about 200 to 300 on parts you will need (such fuel system adjustments). It will be a significant amount of horsepower over stock without having to do any serious modifications or customization if you put a higher HP motor in it.


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Sorry but 4age fast? How can you go from v8-turbo-90hp? With some work it could be in the list but not for your 1500. Whats in there now? 20r? you could build that alittle and it should help. Don't know what I would do as I have a 77 celica with the same problem. hehehe I have a 350 on the side but dunno what I want. The 20v blacktop would help but might have problems with the weight of the car. 3t nitrous or turbo?

Well good luck
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:23 am 
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Is your car automatic or manual? If you want to go retro, use 18RG but parts are getting hard to get hold off (depending on where you are at). I wonder if 7MGE will fit...then convert eventually to an ITB.

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Not my car or a corona but here is what he did: "Saved up and bought 3 weber DCOE's, made a manifold from the stock lower intake manifold chopped up. Installed a Carter 4070 fuel pump for a steady 4PSI. MSD 6A, Timing Control Computer and Balster Coil handle the ignition triggered off a flying magnetic crank sensor, the sensor is from an S10."


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:49 am 
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^wow,nice looking stuff but i think it would be long...

Yeah,car is a 22R right now,was a 20R,and its just that building these seems super expensive!Like 'wow' i could have almost 300hp for 5G's :shock: I come from turbo-fords,and turbo -volvos so maybe i am spoiled,or maybe i should just go 2.3turbo ford in it,as i could prolly get a whole car for $500 and 300hp is easy and almost free :P

It's just that this is such a nice car and i would like to keep it japanese.

And about the 20v...Are they hard to make work in rear wheel drive?Expensive?

3T?...I am going to look into this..New to the toyota game :oops:


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:29 am 
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20v are like a 16v to work in, pretty much a giant lego set. All you would need to make it rwd is dent a hole in the firewall or cut it for the distributor (or run a distributorless setup), and obtain an ae86 tranny. The total price it cost me for all the parts needed to make it work was under $1.1k to put into my RA21. The only bad thing about a 20v is that there isn't much room to make the 300hp you wanted. You will pretty much be under 200hp no matter how much effort you put into it. If you are looking for 300hp and to stay in the 4 cylinder family, you might consider a 3sgte or a bastard swap of an sr20det swap.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:46 am 
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[quote="superboosted"]^wow,nice looking stuff but i think it would be long...
:shock: I come from turbo-fords,and turbo -volvos so maybe i am spoiled,or maybe i should just go 2.3turbo ford in it,as i could prolly get a whole car for $500 and 300hp is easy and almost free :P
[quote]I was just thinking the same thing and see many xr4ti parts cars, turbo coupe etc for 300-600 bux. The only issue I think might be is the overall height of the t2.3. Its cheap, makes crazy power, its cheap (I did say its cheap right) and if you really wanna wild up a t2.3...a volvo head is a cool deal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMsMHvGwb9w or tech info... http://www.merkurtech.com/merkurtech/te ... tem045.php

Ive been thinking of the cheapest, quickest turbo large cube (2.3 is big for 4cyl) engine swap, that while being a cheap starting point, has as much potential as some of the other engines available, and I keep coming back to this one. Plus, I dont think Ill get to much grief for cutting up a 210 :lol: :tu: :twisted:

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I was just thinking the same thing about the t2.3ford and see many xr4ti parts cars, turbo coupe etc for 300-600 bux. The only issue I think might be is the overall height of the t2.3. Its cheap, makes crazy power, its cheap (I did say its cheap right) and if you really wanna wild up a t2.3...a volvo head is a cool deal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMsMHvGwb9w
or tech http://www.merkurtech.com/merkurtech/te ... tem045.php

Ive been thinking of the cheapest, quickest, big cube turbo (2.3 is big for 4cyl) engine swap, that while being a cheap starting point, has as much potential as some of the other engines available, and I keep coming back to this one. Plus, I dont think Ill get to much grief for cutting up a 210 :lol: :tu: :twisted:[/quote]

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:13 pm 
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I know all about the 'Folvo' and yeah,i have had many,many turbo fords and volvos,all built by me,in my garage and i know their potential..also,the height thing is easy to overcome with an intake that faces forward.I just dont know if i can bastardize this beautiful toyota...

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you could always go push rod....3tc I had one in my Corolla before i went to a tg parts are pretty cheap can get mazda b2000 pistions and go 2.0l head work is easy and intake carbs and such are eeasy to come by as well you could get a stock EFI intake and run Megasquirt for fuel control

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you guys are forgetting a real easy option... that keeps it all toyota,
fits in with ease and makes a ton of torque and torque is what you
need in a heavy car like this... 3RZ from a 95-04 tacoma truck!!!
Ive seen one in a AE86 so it should fit in the corona easy...
Its 2.7 litre!! and lots of tuning parts are already out there....

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:17 am 

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Hey. Look for a 22ret. They came in forunners. You see them for sale on ebay sometimes. LCEngineering makes performance parts. Look at youtube for 20r/22r hybrids. I had a 78 corona with a 20r and it was weak. But then my carb quit and I put a 32/36 on it and it was like night and day.


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18rgRabbit wrote:
you guys are forgetting a real easy option... that keeps it all toyota,
fits in with ease and makes a ton of torque and torque is what you
need in a heavy car like this... 3RZ from a 95-04 tacoma truck!!!
Ive seen one in a AE86 so it should fit in the corona easy...
Its 2.7 litre!! and lots of tuning parts are already out there....


THIS IS THE ONLY CORRECT POST IN THIS THREAD


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:22 pm 
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18rgRabbit wrote:
you guys are forgetting a real easy option... that keeps it all toyota,
fits in with ease and makes a ton of torque and torque is what you
need in a heavy car like this... 3RZ from a 95-04 tacoma truck!!!
Ive seen one in a AE86 so it should fit in the corona easy...
Its 2.7 litre!! and lots of tuning parts are already out there....


THIS IS THE ONLY CORRECT POST IN THIS THREAD


I thought 1050kg was pretty light... :P

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:06 pm 

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Hello Pal

I have a 20v silvertop turbo on a Hachiroku and it is fun BUT parts are really expensive. I will recomend an Sr20 NA or turbo or any form of 4ag. A supercharged 4ag is on top of my list if you want to make power and have Original cheap parts. :tu:


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Stock 3RZ-FE will be quite strong in there...


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:35 pm 
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3rz is the best option. The 4ag is great for small cars but for the corona isnt

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