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 Post subject: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:15 pm 

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Location: Pomona, CA
Just found this forum looking for some wheels.. So I thought I would put up a build thread to introduce myself..

So I bought my 1968 1600 in March 2012.

I love the car. So much fun, beautiful ride, and in great shape.

But I had been wanting more power, a 5th gear, easier starting and running, and reliability.

Anyone know where this leads?

Pictures later..

Mike


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:15 pm 

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Location: Pomona, CA
Ok, so I know what car I'm talking about, but in case you don't, here is my car on its last cross country jaunt.. To Shasta..

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Since buying the car, I had noticed it could pretty easily fade the brakes when pushed, so I had installed the Spriso Z car front brake upgrade.. Easy to do and it completely ended the fade issues..

But I was left with a car that ran well when warm, but required 3-5 minutes of warm up before it would idle, was always a touch rough, and I think I have to take some of the credit for that, I'm sure the carbs were maladjusted after the linkage jumped off the car on my way home from Oregon..

It would try to overheat if driven up a long hill, it seemed to always be looking for a half gear somewhere, either up or down..

I was somewhat scared to really spin the motor, I know I shouldn't have been, but I just didn't want to hurt the old motor..

The handling is awesome, the brakes incredible, it looks beautiful, it was just underpowered and needed help..

So after seeing some very interesting cars at the SoCal roadster BBQ, then Solvang, then taking the car on the Shasta trip, I made up my mind.. Only one question, to turbo or not to turbo..

So I wound up talking to Kevin Desirello, and he and I talked about both options, and he recommended the normally aspirated motor.. I like to drive, long trips, everywhere, a lot, and Kevin thought the reliability and absolutely no thought required operation of the NA motor was the right fit.. But I like power, I really do, so I was convinced I needed the turbo. But I decided I would take Kevin up on his offer to drive his car and ride in Bart's car, and I promised myself I would keep an open mind..

So as we speak, my car is getting a transplant of a normally aspirated SR20DE S-14. Kevin Desirello is handling the work, and I will be handling the standing around and pretending I know what's going on..

This thread will be updated as pictures come in, and I hope to be able to share progress regularly until we are done..


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:16 pm 

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Location: Pomona, CA
Car dropped at Kevin's, ready to get started..

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44 years of service.. I will be keeping this motor with this car, so if at some point in the future the next person to enjoy this car wants to take it back, they can..

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Getting ready to come apart.. Kevin says it was the first time this body came off this chassis..

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Front view..
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Under the back..
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Short term home for a body.. it is enjoying waiting next to Kevin's car..
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Looks empty in there.. We will fix that..
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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:17 pm 

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Location: Pomona, CA
So I have been a little slow posting pictures.. They keep showing up in my phone..lol

So the tranny mount is in..
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And Kevin added a torque arm..
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And somewhere I have pictures of the motor area, but I don't seem to have it uploaded.. Soon..


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:18 pm 

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Location: Pomona, CA
Stopped by today...

Mocked up and in..
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Exhaust tubing in..
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Motor/trans coming out for clean, paint and polish.. Chassis getting cleaned and painted..

Progress makes me very happy! Kevin is on this!


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:18 pm 

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Location: Pomona, CA
I love getting pictures in the mail!

Thanks Kevin!

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I think it looks so good...

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Can't wait to see what happens next..

Mike


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:19 pm 

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I get so happy when my phone goes beep...

Pictures just in.. Kevin was busy again today.. Again, I knew this was the plan, but to have it done is just amazing..

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Now for all the little things.. Like a LOT of little things..

But I think this is a pretty big milestone..


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:20 pm 

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Getting closer.. I can't wait..

Valve cover and manifold done, radiator in, most of the wiring done, intake piping done.

It's so close I can taste it..

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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:20 pm 

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One more check mark.. Thanks Garm!


Shift knob installed.. The list gets smaller every day!

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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:21 pm 

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New springs installed. I like the stance with the lighter front end..

In the muffler shop today, Kevin is building an exhaust..

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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:22 pm 

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Did I say wow yet?

Ok, so I picked it up at Kevin's in Riverside.. We did the last minute stuff like install my license plate...

Kevin had solved the little issues, and the car was ready to go..

Impressions?

Exhaust note: at idle, and at very low throttle, it's so docile, it's quieter than the stock motor.. Perfect for the neighborhood.. Pulling 2nd and 3rd gear up highway 74, it barks and growls, as loud as you ask it to.. And the minute you chop throttle, it's back to silent mode.. At 70 on the freeway, it's very quiet, can barely hear the motor over the wind.. At 85, it gets a little louder.. Just beautiful..

Power delivery: very smooth.. Very linear, and it just keeps pulling and pulling and pulling.. I have not come anywhere near the redline yet, but I can't wait.. The sound and the thrust just go and go and go...

Power: I don't know just how much there is, but there is SO much more than the 1600, it's not even close to the same car.. It was effortless climbing up the hill, didn't really care what gear it was in..

Transmission: 5 speeds, short throws, smooth shifts, and.. I love the 1600 rear end with the 5 speed..


Overall, I think it would be hard to be more excited.. When the gauges are done in the next couple weeks, I'm going to be so happy..


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:22 pm 

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Location: Pomona, CA
I can't wait to drive up to the show tomorrow!

I am very happy with the car!

Ready to cruise...

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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:23 pm 

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Location: Pomona, CA
Got myself a GoPro.. Need to figure out the sound, and then I can go for a real drive.. Trying to actually get engine noise over the wind is tough..

http://youtu.be/fyS0qSffkSE

Or I can get it done this way, but there is no sound.. ugh.. It was a very fun drive though..lol

http://youtu.be/kq4OxALp4vw


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:23 pm 

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Location: Pomona, CA
New video..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJB8K3AkpWQ


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:24 pm 

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Location: Pomona, CA
Dash is going in tonite.. Looks really good..

I'm going to love the red illumination and these gauges are just beautiful..

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New suspension arms assembled..

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And on the car..

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Sins of the PO... The shingle that was supporting the heater core behind the dash.. Kevin pulled all this crap out and cleaned it all up..

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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:25 pm 

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Location: Pomona, CA
I just got back from driving it for the first time with the new gauges.. I'm actually very happy with the legibility..

But trying to photograph them with a cell phone camera is tough.. To get the actual light level, you cannot let it focus on the odometer, so you get blurry..

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But If you want focused shots, you HAVE to focus on the odometer, and the green washes out the red light, and everything appears VERY dark..

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My eyeball, on the other hand, has no such issues, and sees them very clearly..


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:26 pm 

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Alvin asked "Are those factory gauges?"



Yes Alvin, the 4 way gauge and clock were rebuilt, and the tach and speedo were modified to accept electronic inputs..

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All were cleaned, and rescreened..


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:26 pm 

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Ok, this one posted with minimal comment..

But pay close attention to the third little installment..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cG-WG4hWGw&feature=youtube_gdata_player


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:27 pm 

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Was asked "Who did the gauges?"



Kevin had them done by Jon Frampton..

The bad cell phone pics do not do them justice.. They really are gorgeous..


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 Fairlady 1600 -> SR20
PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:28 pm 

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Location: Pomona, CA
notoptoy wrote:
Nice work all around. Your picture is not very clear, but it looks like those gauges would be hard to read?


So I got a new phone a while back, and I decided to take better night pictures of the gauges…

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I figured out if I turn off the odometer, the camera can grab the speedo.. duh..


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