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 Post subject: Jalopnik's Forgotten Cars: The Mazda Roadpacer (Holden HJ)
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:27 pm 

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http://jalopnik.com/5983180/the-mazda-r ... ome-reason


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 Post subject: Re: Jalopnik's Forgotten Cars: The Mazda Roadpacer (Holden H
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:52 pm 
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The story is nearly right. The car was actually shipped CKD and assembled by Mazda in Japan which is why they have numerous unique features that we never saw in the original Holden Premier. It is also a shorter wheelbase and wider track.

The tie-up was not due to the Rotary engine, but the fact that Mazda Japan assisted in GM and Isuzu coming together in 1971. Isuzu sold the Holden Statesman in Japan under the Isuzu badge before the Mazda Roadpacer came into existance.

Still, a good article on nearly the rarest of all Mazdas. Only the Rotary Parkway bus and original Cosmo L10A sold in fewer numbers.

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 Post subject: Re: Jalopnik's Forgotten Cars: The Mazda Roadpacer (Holden H
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:57 pm 

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mazdajon wrote:
It is also a shorter wheelbase and wider track.


Can you explain how & why this would be done?

Curious as to the mechanical changes & what the benefits would be

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 Post subject: Re: Jalopnik's Forgotten Cars: The Mazda Roadpacer (Holden H
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:05 pm 
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jonesyGT wrote:
mazdajon wrote:
It is also a shorter wheelbase and wider track.


Can you explain how & why this would be done?

Curious as to the mechanical changes & what the benefits would be


Because the Rotary engine sits higher in the engine bay than the original Holden V8, they needed to use a two piece tail shaft (Holden originally was a single piece) to meet the correct angle, but that required the rear axle to be moved back slightly to make it all work. I originally thought forwards but have checked the specs online and the Roadpacer is longer not shorter. Holden is 2819mm wheelbase and the Roadpacer 2830mm.

The specs online do not appear as accurate as I remember as they state the same track for both at 1530mm. I have a brochure at home that I will check the track variation with but maybe I am wrong on the track? I will check and confirm.

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 Post subject: Re: Jalopnik's Forgotten Cars: The Mazda Roadpacer (Holden H
PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:54 pm 

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Interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_Roadpacer

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Originally intended as transport for high-ranking government officials, the car was sold in the wake of the first fuel crisis and was not a commercial success.
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Most were sold to government departments and were later crushed, meaning Roadpacers are rare nowadays;


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