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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady resqued from junkyard
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:16 pm 
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Good on you for saving it. Sounds like a nice project. I like grill #2 myself.


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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:31 am 
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Thanks for your minds - maybe some other members told their meanings or thoughts here.

Fairlady with SR20?? Aren´t their enough outside? :mrgreen:
I want a Fairlady because of the old school style, rareness and ... it is old enough (more further lines down)

If you want to build a rotary (or any engine) here in Germany you have to pass emissiontests which are very strict.
You have to know the loophole of the emissionlaw ;-)
--> Only vehicles built after 1969 have to pass the emissiontest! 8)

And the acceptense of the car would evaluated by the built date ...
So the car can scream as loud as possible as in the days of his first registration for example.
A rotary-project could only possible with a old chassis or a very very very cool (but expensive) checker

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here in switzerland it would be really complicated and almost impossible to get the ol' fairlady registered street legal with a rotary engine in i believe


Yeah, some poeple think germany has the hardest car law.. but in switzerland you can´t get a STOCK Supra wing on your Supra MK4 :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 2:28 pm 
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Doc wrote:
but in switzerland you can´t get a STOCK Supra wing on your Supra MK4 :roll:

Well that's not really true, if a part has been homologated it's legal, problem is only a lot of these "experts" don't know what has been homologated, so many people just think if they say "no" it is not legal. but if you can show them they're wrong (and that's quite easy if you're into cars) than that's no problem at all..
You just have to understand how it works then it's easy.
Took me 3 years of hard work and hard earned money to get my EK9 from japan street legal here, but now it's totally street legal, loud as hell (97dB at idle :D), Sard racing catalytic convert and toda 4-2-1 header registered. no problem - if you know how to get the stuff done right. most people just are not willing to deal with those paragraphs :)


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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:09 pm 
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It´s done!! - no, not the hole car - but the engine removal from the RX7

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Cold days in germany - chrushed Ice anyone?

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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:58 am 
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long time nothing new :(

some time ago I ordered a 2t engine lift to get the engine in my garage.
I read many info about my rotary engine ... really good board is rx7club.com, which I join for this project.

This weekend I take the attached parts away from the block.

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But manifold and turbo have some cracks. I want do use a budget ebay manifold, so no prob with the stock manifold but I want to use the stock turbo


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very good page with rotary tutorials:
http://www.rotaryresurrection.com/2ndgen/techmenu.html

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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:21 pm 

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Grill 1&4 look best to me.

What color paint are you thinking of ?

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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 12:20 am 
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Thanks for your poll.

I don´t know... I like a black as well as blue. Red looks great on the roadster too, but I want use this color on a other project :mrgreen:

the best black one -Alvin´s

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or a bright blue like this one:

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I have to say: One moment I thought about the dark midnight purple - this color is fantastic but it will be too expensive for me.

sorry only Links - pics are bigger than 800x800
http://rjamo.co.uk/PhotoAlbums/gt1/01-stand3.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o16/J44MAA/028-1.jpg



What do you guys think about the cracks on the hotside of the turbo?

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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:09 am 

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hi there,
some hard project your working on there :o
I really prefer the black over the blue, it just feels like the difference between jeans and a tuxido suit 8)

those cracks on the manifold could be from over heating, it could be a high boost blow, if you changed the manifold try checking the cpu's software for mods by ex owner.

I really think that rotaries are good engines, just lack the proper introduction to end users. :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:52 am 
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sorry for the long time some guys of you had to wait. BUT it is in!! ....my garage. And the 13B too, okay not definitely but you can get an imagination of how it should look like. I will have some spare time for this project in september so you all will get more pictures and information then. Maybe some small things in october too :tu:

Enjoy 8)

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with wooden enginebay

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not much space at all

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The neck at the bottom of the waterpump housing will be cut off and a new one should go straight to the front. Need this place for the turbo

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And the best at last: The original drive shaft from 2.gen RX7 fits!! in lenght of course. Hope it will fit with the 1. gen RX7 rear end too

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thanks for reading! leave a comment :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:17 am 

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One heck of a project. Looking good! will be a real nice ride when completed.


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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 10:55 am 
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Good job, it' lookks like you are making some progress.

Spriso motorosports that does the SR20 swaps also has some good info on RX7 rear ends swaps, it might help you out a bit.

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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:44 am 
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thanks for your support :tu:

I want to do the technical/mechanical jobs first. Engine, drivetrain, suspension etc.
Then drive for a while as a "ratsun" 8) German police will love me :lol:

Yes, but the progress is very slow. Hope to make some big steps in september as I mentioned.
I talked to Micheal from Spriso after I had a look at there fantastic builds on there website. I have to confess that the idea with the RX7 GSL-SE rear end is from him :oops:

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Next step is to build a manifold by using the cheap ebay one. I want to bring the turbo more to the front, because of the missing space to the side.

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When the turbo is on his place I have to build a frame or something else where I can fix the engine to the chassis

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Then I want to start the rotary on the chassis to check which parts are needed and which not.


This are the must to do points - we will se what´s comming next 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:15 am 
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Some time ago I emptied the gastank and noticed a massive smell like very old colours :td: After a look into it I decided to open the tank.

Here you can see why! Do I build a new tank?? ... I think YES this should be more easy :mrgreen:

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I think the fuel tank unit could be saved, new one would cost ~50USD. BUT I found on my parts catalog that there is a fuel unit FOR RACING listed. Where are the differences of this and the stock unit?

Order numbers:
stock: 25060-14601
Race: 25060-25900

First I wanted to use my BOSCH 044 inside the tank. Then I found the drain plug. So I decided to screw/weld a 90° Fitting into it and place the fuel pump outsite to the frame.


Maybe I can build a first test manifold on the next weekend


and here you can see my new intercooler and radiator with a 382mm SPAL High-Performace-Fan :lol:

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The original parts are not as thick as the mock-ups ;-)

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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:23 am 
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--- UPDATE ---

- Manifold Version 001 -> done
- New Champion 3-Row Aluminum radiator
- New universial intercooler (core size: 550mm x 180mm)

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Transmission position

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AFM position as long as I don´t use Greddy e-Manage

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can´t get a straight compression tube, so I will build my own :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:51 am 
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Thanks,

Manifold is okay for testing, but it´s not the prettiest :oops:


Today I got back the tail lights from a friend who dechromed them for me. He can chrome it too but without copper, so I have to solder the pits with a hard solder and polish them very perfectly to get a well done finish.

But it costs less than 1/10 of the price of a firm who do this. I will do the same with the front light covers.

All diecast parts I will blast with glass and polish them by my own too or paint them.

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The last picture shows a broken bracket and a bit rusty one on the right side. little bit of blasting required

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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 3:32 am 
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some days ago I joined a board of (lotus) Seven, HKT, Caterham,.... drivers. People with knowledge about building cars like this and get the OK from our german TÜV.

For the swap on the rear axle I want to use disc brakes. But I need to install a handbrake which is mechanical activated NOT by hydraulic. My first thought was a drum brake inside the disc. But the guys told my I can use other calipers which have a lever, who can activated direcly by the handbrakecable. I didn´t know them.

So rear axle conversion with this calipers is much more easy!

drum hand brake
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vs. mech. brake on caliper
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And I found discs suitable discs from the fiat grande punto
Front: 284x22mm 4x100 boltpattern
Rear: 264x10mm 4x100 boltpattern

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does anybody know the cylinder diameter of the original Datsun Roadster front brake?

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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2013 11:00 am 
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I see you have a Hakosuka, is there a thread from this car on the forum?

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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
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Im glad to see her saved! Keep up the great work. :tu: :tu:

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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:20 am 

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love your work, grille no 6 and black gets my vote.


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 Post subject: Re: Datsun Fairlady rescued from junkyard
PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:42 am 
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thanks for your posts :tu:

at the moment I have to pass some acedemic test. I will work on the car in february.

So here are some solutions I want to realize:

Brakes:
- Front Disc: 284mmx22mm, bolt circle: 4x100mm, BMW E36 caliper: cylinderdiameter=54mm
- Rear Disc: 264mmx10mm, bolt circle: 4x100mm, Opel/Vauxhall Astra G Caliper: cylinderdiameter=36mm
- Hand brake via a lever on the rear caliper, so no drum brake inside the disc
Haope they will fit the rims

Front Hub:
Have to design a new Hub, because of the new bolt pattern, new disc (from FIAT Grande Punto), new caliper position. Maybe I can use the OEM from the fiat. Not sure at the moment.

Wheels:
Will use the DRAG DR20 15x7 Offset: 10
gold or gold machined

Tires:
Federal 595 RS-R 205/50 ZR15 or Federal 595 RS-R 195/50 ZR15

Colour:
blue like a subaru impreza

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