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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:39 pm 
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Hey Eric

Were the Energy Suspension 510 bushings you bought too large for the tapered Skyline LCA hole? Or too small and had some play to them?

Did you end up using them on your car or not?
How was the fit?

I read somewhere that EARLY 510 LCAs are different, and that no one makes specific polyurethane bushings for them...
That makes me think that maybe 68-70 510 LCAs have the same taper design that the C10 does...

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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:07 pm 
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Oh, I should have clarified. I used to own a 71 510. I did all of the bushings and bearings on the car when I had it. That's where my info came from. I haven't tried to use any 510 parts on my c10 yet but some look very similar.


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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:24 pm 
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I've been emailing with Don @ DP and he confirmed that the 68-70 510 did indeed have tapered front LCA bushings - just like our C10s, so I am willing to bet they are identical... Problem is no one makes tapered poly bushings for the early 510s as everyone seems to get convinced to swap out to later 510 LCAs

I'm going to try to go over there with the used C10 ball joints / tie rods I pulled off of my car and compare contrast with his 510 stuff if he agrees to it... Should be interesting...

Oh he also gave me dimensions for his Delrin Idler Arm bushing kit for the 510.
Would be interesting to see if it can be used on C10. The dims are:

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The idler arm bushing fits a 32mm bore and each half has a shoulder length of 32mm as well. the ID of the sleeve is approximately 16mm and the sleeve is 75mm long.


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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:53 am 

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Don has the skills. Will be fun to see what he comes up with.


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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:39 pm 
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i know for fact 71 and 71 510 are not the same and have no taper i have grand slam/revolver bushings in the front of my hako including the rear subframe and diff mount i got them a while back from my freind that was banned off of here.can i say that?


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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:47 pm 
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Do yourself a favor and swap over to a Z front coolant fitting next time you work on the cooling system of your car.

The gaskets don't change, but you'll need to also get Z lower rad hose to go with Z front coolant fitting
Your heater core inlet hose can then be 5/8" all the way from the core to the front of the block, instead of using the Hako reducer that makes it go from 5/8" to 3/4"

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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:56 pm 
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5speed Transmission Rubber Mount

S30 does not fit - different bolt pattern from rubber mount to frame bracket (1 hole vs 2)
(I guess if you HAD to, you could re-drill to correct bolt pattern...)
510 does not fit

But, S13 / S14 / & most likely the 90s Nissan pickup (with the KA engine) fits!

Here's how we figured this out:

Tim (wookieballa) suggested the idea, so I reached out to Eric @ JDML, Jan (yawnnycash), Dave (sennavsprost), & Mark.
Eric @ JDML happened to have a customer 510 at the shop that has an SR20 swap. He sent me pics and dims of the tranny mount that was on that car - it turned out to be a S13/S14 unit, and all bolt hole dimensions checked out.

Tonight, I went by Mark's place to see his assortment of S14 parts including both stock S13/S14 tranny mount and Nismo tranny mount. The pics below are of my busted C10 tranny mount (on the left) and the optional Nismo tranny mount for S13/S14

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My C10 trans frame bracket bolts up 100% fine
The S14 rubber mount bolts up 100% fine to my Z/ZX 5spd trannies

The only difference is that the stock S13 / S14 mount is about 1/2" - 5/8" thicker than C10 rubber mount
The optional Nismo S13 / S14 mount is more like 3/4" thicker than the C10 rubber mount

That means the tail of your tranny will sit that much higher in your trans tunnel
Your engine + trans will in effect be pitched forward longitudinally a hair more than with the C10 stock mount
Not enough to cause any serious drama to your drive shaft u joints

The only place where you might have a slight interference is the top of the tranny where the shifter plugs in and how close that might be to the top of your trans tunnel.


Mark gave me his stock used S13 / S14 trans mount to mess around with.
When the 5speed goes back onto the Skyline on Saturday I'll try it & report back - looks awfully promising! I think it'll work fine...

Thanks to all involved in figuring this out!

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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:05 pm 
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BTW here's a pic of the 90s Nissan pickup tranny mount:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290459435451?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649#ht_2680wt_907

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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 4:54 pm 

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So the 240k(c110) front ball joint is no good for the kgc10?

So if we share the same bearing as the 200sx on the front hub has anyone tried a hub swap so we can have vented and cheap rotors?

Kev so all the rear rubbers we can use the c110?
I also see u swapped ur clutch master over looks like you used a c110 one and had to relocated the hard line to the passeger side in the master

Also anyone else need a wiper switch mine fell apart last time i used it and im looking to make new ones but keeping the orginal stalk.

I have taken the nardi steering wheel off and I restored a c110 wood grain one. A guy in brissy found a gtx centre for me in japan but it had a smaller diameter than the c110 datsun one so i had to used the lathe to turn down some parts and make some part to make it fit.....looks a treat ill post some pics soon.

Also told the c110 gas pedal is the same part number as the c110.

I know a guy who has the parts book for both kgc10 and c110 ill see if he will let me scan them and ill make the available for download if no-one already has

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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:58 pm 
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Stop the presses!!


I've got my tranny back on and an futzing around with s13/s14 rubber mount

Honestly it's just too tight of a fit
The top of the tranny is just touching the top of my Trans tunnel and I've already got the Trans to frame bracket spaced down as far as I can


On my car with a 5spd I can't get it to work

I'm going back to my busted up c10 rubber mount



Soo close...

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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:43 pm 
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kgc10 gtx wrote:
So the 240k(c110) front ball joint is no good for the kgc10?

Nope. Looks like it'll fit, but the taper is different.

kgc10 gtx wrote:
So if we share the same bearing as the 200sx on the front hub has anyone tried a hub swap so we can have vented and cheap rotors?

Not sure about that. The C10 disc bolts to the back of the hub, rather than the front of it in a 200SX. Also the 200SX would have a larger diameter disc than C10, which is only 250mm. AFAIK the early C110 and aussie R31 both have 250mm discs. Not sure if the R31 disc is any good to us tho.

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Kev so all the rear rubbers we can use the c110?

Yes, so far C110 bushes seem to fit. The only C110 bushes I haven't tried yet are the radius rod bushes.

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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:00 pm 

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Thanks for that!
I got a full r31 set up in the garage. I might give it a shot. I know the caliper blots hole spacing is about the same

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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:47 am 
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ericbauer wrote:
Stop the presses!!


I've got my tranny back on and an futzing around with s13/s14 rubber mount

Honestly it's just too tight of a fit
The top of the tranny is just touching the top of my Trans tunnel and I've already got the Trans to frame bracket spaced down as far as I can


On my car with a 5spd I can't get it to work

I'm going back to my busted up c10 rubber mount



Soo close...


Here's a thread with some pics of a Kenmeri mount...looks like it ain't the same. But interesingly an R30 mount looks like it goes even lower.
http://www.classiczcars.com/forums/thread15101.html

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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 9:10 am 
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Can we talk about dipsticks real quick?

I measured the one in the skyline (N42 L28) vs the one in the 240Z (F54 L28)

From the lower lip of the rubber stopper that seats the dipstick in its dipstick tube to the top of the hash marks of the oil level

Skyline: 6" 7/8
240Z: 7" 1/8

If you accidentally used a f54 dipstick in a front pick up n42, your "full" oil level would be about a 1/4" low

On the Skyline it takes me about 5.5qts to reach the full level indicated on the dipstick

Overall length of the N42 dipstick from lower lip of rubber stopper (as before) to the far end is 8.5"


I'd be curious to hear what dimensions a stock L20 dipstick has and maybe also a dimension of how far back from the front cover it's placed...

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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:16 pm 
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My N42 has the stick relocated to the front sump position, and the length is 8.5in (thats what she said).

And when I tip in the regulation 4.7L, the oil level goes waaaaay above the full mark on the stick, in fact way past the low to high lines, and about 2mm higher than the top of the "H".

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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:09 am 
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Dipsticks. More specifically, my dipstick.
Mine is an L20, from the face of the bung that sits on the tube to the end of the dipstick is 8 5/8", and to the "HI" mark 7 1/8".
From the tube to the front face of the block is 7 1/4", just infront of the engine mount.
I'm assuming that it's the correct dipstick.

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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 3:27 pm 
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A pic to better illustrate what i was talking about in case it was unclear:

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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:59 pm 

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So I pulled off my rear drum and removed my leaking brake cylinder. The one on my car is a 510(1600) one. I put it next to my old stock hako one and the only difference I can see is the skyline one is a bigger bore than the 510 one. I will be pulling them both apart to compare and will post photos later.


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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:56 pm 

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DeRuX wrote:
So I pulled off my rear drum and removed my leaking brake cylinder. The one on my car is a 510(1600) one. I put it next to my old stock hako one and the only difference I can see is the skyline one is a bigger bore than the 510 one. I will be pulling them both apart to compare and will post photos later.



Any update?

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 Post subject: Re: Hakosuka Parts Interchageability Thread
PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:22 pm 
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Dipstick tube leading edge to front edge of block is exactly 7" - E30 L20A GC10


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