My 1970 KGC10 2000 GT

kev · **Posted:** Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:11 pm

Great progress!...Wow, those be some monster porting

ericbauer · **Posted:** Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:24 pm

Yeah... big red doesn't like putt putting around town... big red MUCH prefers running free... lol... "starion" this one...

For the record, what is this?
I've seen it on ImPo's 4door, and jgonzo's coupe...

kev · **Posted:** Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:30 pm

Whoa! You got a Wide Racing Mirror (those things are like $500 from V50).

You mean those ghosted lines across the windscreen? AFAIK, it's from the oldschool way they used to toughen auto glass back in the day. I think there is some sort of process where they blow air across the hot glass (or something) and the jets of air leave those marks.

ericbauer · **Posted:** Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:35 pm

it's a repro mirror kev... cheaper...

most are repros these days...

genuine articles are in the thousands...

my stock mirror plastic housing partially disintegrated in my hands last month... too much sun exposure i guess... old japanese plastic...

eagle eye you!

yeah i was asking about the lines... crazy tempering, eh?
never cease to amaze me!

wookieballa · **Posted:** Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:56 am

Hey E, got that tranny mount you needed on order, i will let you know when it comes in!

thats cool that you found the date on that cluster, i never saw a date on mine, i want to swap in new LED lights for my cluster, so maybe i will look for the date

i wish i had pulled the wrap off my header too and blasted it, i wonder how much of the stainless i could get to come out if i did that??

i will have one of my Japanese workers translate that stamp for you. i will report back when i have an answer for you.

kev · **Posted:** Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:05 am

ericbauer wrote:

it's a repro mirror kev... cheaper...

most are repros these days...

Much cheaper than $500? I need one

amorphiss · **Posted:** Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:48 am

ericbauer wrote:

Yeah... big red doesn't like putt putting around town... big red MUCH prefers running free... lol... "starion" this one...

For the record, what is this?
I've seen it on ImPo's 4door, and jgonzo's coupe...

It's stress birefringence from the tempering process on the windshield - i.e. slightly differing index of refractions throughout the material. All C10's I have seen have had it.

I have one of those repro wide racing mirrors too - I really like having the bigger mirror and the quality is nice.

wolff · **Joined:** Fri May 18, 2012 12:32 am **Posts:** 12

Hey, i wanted to chime in here. first and im sure im speaking for so many people, your car is the cleanest and nicest hako ive seen, you are very lucky.

Im sure that everyone messaging you about how much you paid for it are more curious about what to expect on their own search. Im curious too, as I would sell my left nut if it would get me one. i wouldnt be suprised if you paid a $hit load for it. I understand the whole "how much did that cost you?" line, can seem a bit prying because it is no ones business but yours. however since this is such a rare car, its not your typical mustang hot rod with a catologue of parts to go with it. Hako parts are extremely hard to find. From my research the cheapest you can find a hako in japan for is around 20k before shipping and im sure it needs a ton of love and attention. They go all the way up to about 80 for the non gtr's and then from about 100-200 ive seen the ones with an s20. thats such a broad price range. Your 240 that you got for 2350 im sure you have spent at least double maybe even triple in parts, So im sure the hako is ,if not already going the same way. With all that said, maybe if you can give an idea what someone should expect to shell out to have something as clean as this, and maybe what to expect once they get one both cost and even personal time. Some people might not be willing to do the leg work, that you obviously do just to research where to find half the parts.

also i will point out, in the short period of time i have been on here. That i have never seen so many people all over the world help each other out on getting parts, and what fits and doesnt. If only more car forums, and car nuts were like this.

Which car magazine shoot are you doing? im sure everyone who follows this thread will be picking up a copy when it comes out. You are just going to have to face it, you and your car is are celebrities now and everyone is following. Please keep up the posts and info this is by far one of the most interesting ones out there.

ericbauer · **Posted:** Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:57 pm

Thanks Wolff

I'm only too aware of the car's budding status - if it can help grow JDML's business then I'm stoked. The way I see it I'm the car's caretaker, preserving a piece of history for the future. Or if you want to see it another way I'm the stage dad with the young star that gets carted to one event after another... Lol

I've seen stock L20 skylines go for $23-26k
I was quite surprised to see one recently sell for several thousand less than $20 - so while not likely it's not impossible

Gabriel at techno toy tuning sold his kenmeri for $26 and change which is a steal for a car with suspension and with rb26 swap

Ive seen 3L straight six skylines like mine advertised for sale in Japan for 2200000 to 2500000 yen. Factor in the current unfortunate exchange rate, shipping, registration taxes, etc and it adds up

Real gt-r's start at 5500000 yen and can easily go up from there
Real s20 engines 240z's seem to be rarer still and are closer to 7500000 yen

And then there's crazy cars like the all carbon Z and all carbon hakosuka, or ones with super crazy rb swaps, sequential gearboxes, etc those quickly get to super silly money

I'm no expert on prices, I've just been keeping an eye on prices for the last couple years...

Regarding my z, I've owned it for 11yrs and I don't really want to know a total amount of what I've spent on it.. But just to give you an idea when I had the floors replaced last year it spent a week in the body shop ... 40hrs at bodyshop rates adds up quick!

ericbauer · **Posted:** Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:10 pm

It's also cheaper than buying a Porsche or M3... Lol...
Those are soo normal.... Hahaha. Just kidding, of course!

Consider finally the ridiculous savings & cd interest rates at your local bank. Buying a genuine classic car is an investment like any other - provided you don't thrash it you should at the very least recoup your purchase price if not more...

HS30-H · **Posted:** Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:40 pm

ericbauer wrote:

can anyone translate the stamp on the header flange for me plz?

意　匠　登　録　出　　　願　済
i shou tou roku shutsu gan zumi

Effectively: "Design Registration Applied For". Not quite 'Pat. Pending', but close.

Sorry, it's not the Rosetta Stone .... :wink:

ericbauer · **Posted:** Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:06 pm

thanks Alan!

-e

Adzmax · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:59 am

I love those wide mirrors, I think I'm going to need one also

wolff · **Joined:** Fri May 18, 2012 12:32 am **Posts:** 12

porsche and m3's are way too common. unless you have a 356,1970 911s, or a 88 m3. however id still take a hako over any of those.

what made you go with jdmlegends ? i mean besides the fact that they had one. Honestly i had never heard of them before the depth of speed videos. they look like they do awesome work, but is there any insight from your experience that you can share, to maybe future customers. also maybe what to expect, as he is a one man shop. Is he not? I gather from what you were saying it took a while from your first contact with them till you actually got it.

ericbauer · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:41 am

re-read the piece i wrote for speedhunters which was published last week
i went with my gut

they were tried and true at that point, having sold a dozen cars already, and i just plain liked their attitude and their attention to detail

amorphiss · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:32 pm

wolff wrote:

porsche and m3's are way too common. unless you have a 356,1970 911s, or a 88 m3. however id still take a hako over any of those.

what made you go with jdmlegends ? i mean besides the fact that they had one. Honestly i had never heard of them before the depth of speed videos. they look like they do awesome work, but is there any insight from your experience that you can share, to maybe future customers. also maybe what to expect, as he is a one man shop. Is he not? I gather from what you were saying it took a while from your first contact with them till you actually got it.

As an owner of both - I concur that the e30 M3 is a really awesome car too.

I also went with JDMLegends (I have the white kgc10 featured in one of the earlier Depth of Speed vids). One of the best things about them is they document the work they do - I don't think you will find another shop like that importing these classics.

kev · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:25 pm

Adzmax wrote:

I love those wide mirrors, I think I'm going to need one also

GROUP BUY

Jgonzo911 · **Posted:** Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:51 pm

Quote:

porsche and m3's are way too common. unless you have a 356,1970 911s, or a 88 m3. however id still take a hako over any of those.

what made you go with jdmlegends ? i mean besides the fact that they had one. Honestly i had never heard of them before the depth of speed videos. they look like they do awesome work, but is there any insight from your experience that you can share, to maybe future customers. also maybe what to expect, as he is a one man shop. Is he not? I gather from what you were saying it took a while from your first contact with them till you actually got it.

I also recently purchased 72 hakosuka from JDMLegends. I must say this shop, goes out their way to make sure you have/understand everything you want/need. Eric and Ryan had to put up with me calling at least 3 to 4 times a week for almost a year. I myself would have went off at least once! Shop is nothing but class A+ Service. Not one complaint
Jose

wolff · **Joined:** Fri May 18, 2012 12:32 am **Posts:** 12

Awesome info on JDM Legends, why are they not on this site, or are they ?

Im in vancouver bc, we have lots of jdm imports here, as our import laws are 15 yrs and older. ive seen a ton of jdm cars with windshields like this.

question: what kind of seats are these ? are they comfy? are driver and pass matching ?
i think we need some more interior shots of your gem eric. interested to see how that rollcage sits in there too.

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Rad2Ltr · **Posted:** Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:15 pm

amorphiss wrote:

wolff wrote:

porsche and m3's are way too common. unless you have a 356,1970 911s, or a 88 m3. however id still take a hako over any of those.

what made you go with jdmlegends ? i mean besides the fact that they had one. Honestly i had never heard of them before the depth of speed videos. they look like they do awesome work, but is there any insight from your experience that you can share, to maybe future customers. also maybe what to expect, as he is a one man shop. Is he not? I gather from what you were saying it took a while from your first contact with them till you actually got it.

As an owner of both - I concur that the e30 M3 is a really awesome car too.

I also went with JDMLegends (I have the white kgc10 featured in one of the earlier Depth of Speed vids). One of the best things about them is they document the work they do - I don't think you will find another shop like that importing these classics.

Here is one for you, I have a US/JDM E30 M3. It was first sold here in California, to a Japanese BMW dealership owner and shipped to somewhere in Japan where it was converted to JDM spec, aside from moving the steering wheel to the right side.

The M3 is cool, but its too modern for my taste. I could be easily tempted to trade it for a 72 Skyline. That or the right BMW E9 3.0Cs.

Will

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