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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:41 pm 
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Nice welding! seriously...

which sleeves did you get?

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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:42 pm 
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the strut housing gland nut threads are SUPER EASY to strip out ...

don't ask how i know... lol

be real careful when you're putting it on and off...

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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:19 pm 
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That is some sweet work right there :D

BTW you can get Cusco camber plates for C10, but IIRC S13 ones might just fit.

If you want the deluxe ones, then these are it :) http://datsport.com/suspension-front-ca ... rings.html

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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 8:56 pm 

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The sleeves I use are from design product racing. They are in long beach. They had a web site but it is down.

I know the nuts are tricky. I have had to clean the threads on them almost each time I took them out. If I didn't they would get a sticky when I tried to put them in.

I have a pair of the design products camber plates that were for a 510. They are a 6 inch round and didn't fit flat on the inside of the strut tower. So I am having them machined down a little. I will have pics tomorrow.

I have thought about the datsport plates but I know a guy in the USA that makes top hats with the thrust bearing in them also. I just need to wait for him to get them done. I think the thrust bearing thing is such a great idea and it must be nicer to turn with them.


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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 8:26 am 
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Who's the guy?

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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 12:08 am 

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Nicely done, Where did you get the sleeves ??


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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 8:20 am 

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The sleeves are made by
Design products racing
5462 OCEANUS DR STE E
Huntington Beach, CA 92649-1042
Tel - (714) 892-1513
email - dpracing@dpracing.cnc.net

They are alum with steel inserts pressed into the ends for welding them to the strut.
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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:08 am 
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Those steel inserts are really what sets them apart. I've got ground control sleeves on 280Z struts on the Z and the sleeves just float over the shock body and simply rest on a ring that's been welded on

This solution is much cleaner I think

Lol more $$



BTW Reid, here's a pic of a (dirty) stock S30 Z caliper.
Pad material measures 2" 15/16 x 1" 7/8

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I would be very surprised if you can't use S30 pads on your stock GC10 caliper - please confirm...

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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 2:19 pm 

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That is why I like these ones so much. they make it look like a modern coil over system and do look really clean after paint.

I will have to check the pad in my calipers with some old S30 pads.


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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:30 pm 
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Do you have some old s30 pads or want me to send some?

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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 6:52 pm 
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ericbauer wrote:
BTW Reid, here's a pic of a (dirty) stock S30 Z caliper.
Pad material measures 2" 15/16 x 1" 7/8

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I would be very surprised if you can't use S30 pads on your stock GC10 caliper - please confirm...

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Those look just like C10 calipers to me...

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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:04 pm 

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I do not have any old s30 pads. I am going to ask a local guy to see if he has any old ones around. If he falls thru I will hit you up on that offer.

I have a shock question for you guys. How can you tell if a shock is blown. I have the shocks i am going to us on the hako and both have resistance going up and down when I push on them. The thing that is funny is only one returns to full extension and the other may move a little then stop. So are they both still good or is the one bad.


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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:17 pm 
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Does it feel like one has a bit of an air pocket inside?

I asked my suspension shop this, and they said that the air pocket means that some gas has leaked out, but doesn't matter so much once the shock is in its resting position and primed. But when I swapped to new shocks, I did notice the difference.

So I think the official verdict might be that if they aren't leaking, they are useable, but no longer at their best :)

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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:40 am 

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Now that you make me think about it. There was a little oil in the strut housing I got these shocks from. It was only in one of them and only one is bad. So I think a little oil came out. So I will be adding new shocks to the shopping list.

On a different note I will be making some bump steer spacers like I did for the DR. They will look something like this.
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They will be smaller then the ones for the DR. I am making them 1.00 tall and they will come with bolts. I do not know pricing yet because I need to find out how many sets I need to make. I am hoping they are less then $90. If they arent it wouldnt be a deal. So if anyone would like a pair let me know.


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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 5:10 pm 

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My camber plates would not sit flat the way they came. So I had them machined down. Now I need some bolts and I can get the struts back in. Also have to get those bumpsteer spacers made.

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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 5:12 pm 
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kev wrote:
Those look just like C10 calipers to me...


FWIW, they were also used on the Toyota Crown, as well as at least 20 other cars. :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 5:19 pm 
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when you ordered those sleeves, did you have to specify a size, or is there a part number that you used to order, and do you mind if i ask what they cost?

this is one of the next things i would like to do with mine too!

ive saved up some busted coilovers from silvias that i planned to just cut and cannibalize for my coilover setup, but im not sure if they will fit the sleeves or not, i really wanted to build mine with adjuctable inserts, but ive had no luck salvaging anything really nice like that.

what are you guys doing about your rears? im pretty sure my hako is sitting on the bump stops when i hit a bad bump, and it really drives me nuts. on YAJ ive seen these "Kspec" suspension components popping up, they have front inserts, camber plats, and rear struts. anyone else looking at these? im considering their rear struts, but again, i really wish you could adjust their stiffness.


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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 5:21 pm 
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john wrote:
kev wrote:
Those look just like C10 calipers to me...


FWIW, they were also used on the Toyota Crown, as well as at least 20 other cars. :mrgreen:

The usual Datsun-upgrade Toyota pickup 4 piston caliper should just bolt on, I would think.

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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 5:29 pm 
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kev wrote:
The usual Datsun-upgrade Toyota pickup 4 piston caliper should just bolt on, I would think.


Yes, it should. :tu:


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 Post subject: Re: DeRuX's GC10 skyline
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:25 pm 
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Has anyone developed any kind of cross reference for what fits Hakos? ie: suspension components, brake pads, steering components, and so on.

i think we should develop a sticky and try to come together and compile this data!


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