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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:39 am 
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Ok, It's official...
I'm an idiot.

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:06 pm 

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It has nothing to do with being idiot or anything else, it is quite common that glass with that type of rubber cracks, that is why they now use glued windshields. And that rubber looks new, could it be that it is too big??


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:37 am 
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No, I don't think its too big.
I can see that there is good clearence and the rubber moves around a little.

It appears to be the original weatherstripping, and it seems to be in good condition.
That is why I wanted to save it, rather than cut it with a blade to ease the removal of the glass.
I gave it a shot since the rubber was looking so good and pliable.
It's pretty obvious that I should have cut it, like everyone told me to do... :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:36 pm 
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Did you try it with soapy water and a cord thru the weather strip? I have to remove the windshield too and now I am a little afraid to do....


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:11 pm 
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Damn dude, that sucks.

Hope you have better luck than me in finding a replacement windshield.

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:58 am 

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My parts man here in Portugal, has a few windshields, he may even have some brand new ones, but I have no idea if it is possible to ship this kind of "delicate" items or how much it would cost. I have one spare windshield that I took from a parts car, along with all the other glass and some other parts. Getting a parts car is always a good idea, but here they are getting rarer.


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:03 am 
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Yes, I smeared soap inbetween the rubber lip and the body.
The glass and weatherstripping was moving around nicely, nothing was stuck.
From just a sligt push from the inside, the glass just cracked.
Fragile stuff!

joaoh2ohonda wrote:
My parts man here in Portugal, has a few windshields, he may even have some brand new ones, but I have no idea if it is possible to ship this kind of "delicate" items or how much it would cost. I have one spare windshield that I took from a parts car, along with all the other glass and some other parts. Getting a parts car is always a good idea, but here they are getting rarer.


I know.
Gerd was the first person I asked.
He has a used windshield for me in good usable condition.
According to him it is no problem to ship. We'll see.

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:35 am 
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Very fragile then...maybe it had some scratch and it started the crack when you pushed out from inside, nothing to do even with lots of care, hope mine will not crack... just in case give me the email of that Gerd :)
Hope to see more pics of your car soon Affen, keep the good job man


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:09 pm 

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Reading your topic from the beginning I remembered, you got some carb parts from him.
I haven´t been to visit Gerd for a few weeks now. Lately I have barely enough time to sleep... haven't been able to work on my Honda either.
Gerd is a former Honda Germany mechanic, and he worked for Suzuki and others, back in the 70´s and til the 80´s or 90´s( not sure).
He is now dedicated to restoring, Honda N, Z(coupé in the US) and S series Hondas. he also works on all sorts of motorbikes from Susuki´s to Honda´s, and many other older and vintage bikes.
He is also a Laverda expert, and has many parts for all these rare machines (cars and bikes).
When he came to live in Portugal, in sunny Algarve he brought all his gear and all love for these machines, and I am happy to be his client and friend.
Recently he got a web page, not very complete or up to date, but has all his contact info.

http://www.classicmotos.de/

Hoppe this helps


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:34 am 
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Thanks Joao, I am like you right now, without time to work in my 360 cause my bussiness trips but hope to be able to start again soon, I will contact Gerd if I need something :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Sun May 13, 2012 10:34 am 
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I think it's fair to say that my motivation has been a bit low since I managed to crack the windshield.
I was not overwhelmed with enthusiasm when this crate arrived at my doorstep the other day either...

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Customs seems to have opened it, removing most of the nails, and closed it back up with a few bits of tape.
All the internal padding has then shifted, and the inevitable result can be seen here:

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 10:31 am 

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bummer man, dont let it get you down . . .

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 3:52 pm 
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feeesh^^ wrote:
bummer man, dont let it get you down . . .


Thanks, it didn't hit me that hard :)
It's just annoying, thats all.
Got a refund on all my expenses from the freighter, so not so much harm done.

Actually, I received yet another windshield the other day.
I one piece this time :)
I've never seen so many layers of wrapping and padding :tu:

Anyway, have been fiddling a bit with the gas tank today.
Need to straighten it up some before corrosion starts eating it while sitting on the shelf.
As expected, the insides was all covered in a tar-like substance.
The supply-line to the carb was clogged, but got it open again with a bit of air-pressure.
Has the whole tank assembly sitting now with some heavy-duty degreaser inside to try and dissolve the sediments.

The sender-unit for the fuel-gauge looks nasty, but hope to get it back into shape.

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 1:03 pm 
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Sender unit did not work, but after some TLC it gives progressive resistance again.

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:20 pm 
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do you have a personal photographer that follows you around?

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 1:12 am 
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Socal Sonny wrote:
do you have a personal photographer that follows you around?

A camera-stand and a 10 second delay usually does the trick :D

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 10:54 am 

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Hello Affen,

You are doing a great job.
When I read some previous posts, I felt very lucky not to have broken my windscreen. I used two screwdrivers to remove it... So I decided to buy a special tool to put it back on my blue N600.

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 5:22 pm 

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Affen it is good to know that you got the windshield replaced with no cost to you, it would not have been fare if that expense was left on your hands.
Has for the gas tank, mine was in very good shape but if it was bad I wold have just sent it for a good zinc plating, easier and longer lasting.
There are some companies that sell tank repair kits, but that is for rusty tanks, Does not look like the case. :D

Has for Pierren600, the kit that you bought is good, but the only thing in there to help you get the glass back in the frame is the rope, all the other tools are to help get the chromed locking strip in the rubber.
It is a good tool but it is easy enough to place the glass without it, I would not buy it just for one car... :?
Any way, good work!!! :D


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:33 am 
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Tank is good for the most part.
Some light surface-rust inside and on top, but no big deal.
Nothing that some acid and zink won't cure.

The bottom of the tank was covered in underbody coating so the steel here is nice.
Was a pain to remove that shit though...
Took 6 turns of paint remover and a lot of elbow-grease.

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:47 pm 
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Sloooooowly moving forward...
Removed the back axle from the car today.

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