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 Post subject: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:56 am 

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Location: Mackay, QLD
Hi everyone.

I recently acquired a 1968 datsun G130 of a mate. Im hoping to tidy it up and fit a vh41 or 45 and automatic and use it as a weekend cruiser.
Its badged as a super six, but i think its a special six. It has the early L23 and 3 speed column change.

My mate was using it as a daily a few years ago and it has sat for a while. Just needed a cleanup and a battery and away it went.
Unfortunatley its a bit low to pass a roadworthy inspection so i have been working on that first.

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One of the rear leaf springs was flipped so i just dismantled the leaves and reset them.
The front coils have been cut so i will track down a pair of xf falcon fronts and use them
Here is a photo after doing the rears.

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I have a set of these wheels also. 14x6 Im not sure what they are called but am thinking of running them, but i think i will run some 16inch wheels. I want to run some tall tyres as the roads are very poor in northern Queensland and need something that can handle a few potholes.

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Im trying to track a vh45 half cut to fit. I will fit the complete engine/auto/ecu etc, and if possible the front brakes. I think i will have to convert the engine to mid sump as the datsun crossmember is a funny shape, curving forward, but the steering arm is pretty far back. All the suspension is mounted to the crossmember so maybe i can modify a torana/HQ style crossmember and suspension to run the front sump VH and also fit the steering rack off the halfcut.

If i get a chance i will attemp to fit the a/c and heater setup, perhaps with an older a/c controller


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:03 am 

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Location: Murray bridge south Australia
very nice :tu:


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 2:50 am 

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Location: austin tx
its funny to me that every time i see a datsun i dont recognize i assume its a cedric and im nearly always right. looks good man :tu:


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:12 am 

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Location: Lobethal, South Australia
looking good, havent seen one of these before, but it looks really good low! shame about the crappy roads up your way!


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:42 am 

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Location: Mackay, QLD
Bit of progress the last week or two. Got some scrapers and cleaned some of the crap. Even got the mrs on the job!
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Bought a g50 half cut which i hope to recieve after my next shift maybe?

Im on days off shift so i managed to get a bit of work done.
Pulled the motor/gearbox and crossmember. Was a bit of a battle by myself with just a jack!
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Got the suspension apart. It was pretty easy apart from splitting the ball joints. One of the mounting bolts was jamed in the bush so i had to give it a bit of death to get it out. The main bushes were pretty good, but the pins were a bit corroded. I think i will get some new ones if i can find some.
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Empty!
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Got the column and some of the dash out. Looks like the heater box is stuffed, but i would like to fit a/c so i will rip it all out and put something late model in.
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Should be enough room for a vh45?
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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:53 am 

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Location: Mackay, QLD
forgot to mention both lower ball joints need replacing.

I have the nissan part numbers
right:
40160-P0110
40160-E0100
40160-73000

left:
40161-P0110
40161-E0100
40161-73000

Now i just have to find some. There are a few chines manufacturers that make them, but ideally i would like to get some 555 ones or other japanese ones.

Can anybody put me onto a place where i can get some from? thanks


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:23 am 

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The export versions were SuperSix (I have a 2400 SuperSix), the SpecialSix was Japanese market and for tax reasons they had an L20 with twin carbs with a similar output to our bigger L's.

Doing a thorough job there! Good luck!

Oh and the balljoints, the only difference with the 230 (the partnumbers with P) is the metric thread of the bolts, otherwise they are interchangeable.

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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:34 am 
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start with the local Nissan dealer- you'd be AMAZED at what they still have in the main whs....

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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 4:07 am 

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Sounds like I need to come to Australia then, when I ask for parts for my Datsuns here they stare at me and say "sir, we are a Nissan dealership..." Ever since Renault took over they managed to work all the old dealers out and they seem to ignore anything over 10 years old here (few exceptions but generally that's the feeling)

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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:57 am 

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Location: Mackay, QLD
IwanVlaar wrote:
The export versions were SuperSix (I have a 2400 SuperSix), the SpecialSix was Japanese market and for tax reasons they had an L20 with twin carbs with a similar output to our bigger L's.



It appears a previous owner has fitted the 'datsun 2400 supersix' badges as i found the old 'datsun 2300' badges under the floor of the boot. the L23 i pulled out is a bit of an oddball. Its got the chrome nuts on the top of the rocker cover, unlike the later l24/26/38 etc. Also has a really nice alloy finned mid sump.

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Oh and the balljoints, the only difference with the 230 (the partnumbers with P) is the metric thread of the bolts, otherwise they are interchangeable.


After a lot of investigation today it appears the lower ball joints from the 230 are only the same up to mid 1974. After that they change to a larger taper that was used through a wide range of nissans up to mid 80's on the 720 and 330 i think.

Go Baby Go wrote:
start with the local Nissan dealer- you'd be AMAZED at what they still have in the main whs....


Yea thats where i went in the end. A bit more expensive, but the old guy running the parts department actually knew which car i was talking about.

I have the last right side ball joint in australia coming from sydney and the last left hand joint in the nissan japan warehouse!


The other options are: A, Ream out the lower ball joint hole in the stub axle to fit the bigger ball joint, but it will take out too much strength for me to be happy with it.
or B, fit the later 230 or 330 stub axles, but that would require finding them complete with hubs and buying new ball joints all round.

I have also been on the hunt for a new front screen. I havent even had a sniff of anything yet. All the windscreen places i have asked have none in australia, and cant find any overseas! I might have to buy a parts car and hide it from the mrs! haha


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:47 am 

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Hey Fraz,
Nice to see someone doing a G130. I've had one for a couple of years. Don't see many around. :tu:
Will be very interested to see the V8 go in. I looked into it and found some guys putting either a VH41 or 1UZFE (can't remember now) and they had to mount it fairly far forward to miss the steering box, wasn't ideal.
Have changed my focus for now back to another car but if I did a V8 I'd look into putting a power steering rack in and getting the engine back where it should be. Good luck with it.
I wrecked a G130 rusty paddock bomb for an auto conversion a while back and have a lot of parts. Let me know if there's anything you can't find.

Regards Shane

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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 10:39 pm 

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Location: SL,UT again....
beautiful car. I am jealous. and I hope the build goes as smoothly as possible.


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:59 am 

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thanks for the positive comments. I hope it goes smoothly also!

took delivery of this on tuesday!
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I have stripped most of the wiring and electronics but am back a work for the next 6 days. Hopefully i can remove the engine when i get back and move it all to my house.

I see where some problems are going to be though. the motor is bloody wide! and the accessories are really widely spaced. I think i will remove the power steer pump and run a holden astra/barina electric steering column and a vh? holden steering rack.


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:57 pm 

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Now it's getting reel interesting :)


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:29 am 
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Those original L20/L23 engines are rare items these days. What are you doing with the old engine?

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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:14 am 

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mr camouflage wrote:
Those original L20/L23 engines are rare items these days. What are you doing with the old engine?


its sitting outside under some plastic. You can have it for free if you take it away! good running motor, starts well, valve seats have been done previously to suit unleaded.
Also comes with 3 speed box


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:44 am 

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Days off shift again, Spent my allowed 2 days working flat out to get the halfcut striped and back to my house.
Bloody motor is massive and the box is even worse!
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Gen did well as my assistant. I think she is beginning to understand my ramblings about the inner workings of engines and what not.
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Initial fit.
No chance....
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Whipped the sump off and using the customary block of wood spacer, chucked it back in.
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Shes a bit tight!
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I think the exhaust wont fit either
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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:10 am 

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I was able to get in an extra half day so got a bit more done.
I cut out the inner guard a bit to make room for the headers to fit. It will be very tight, but after some panel beating to the guard i might be able to make up some headers that fit and if im lucky, clear the brake master.
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Engine sitting where i think is best fit. Slightly closer to the crossmember than i would have liked but it will have to do.
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Would you believe stock 1968 datsun mounts would have fit perfectly if i drilled out the mount hole by 1mm!
I have decided to use stock vh mounts welded to the bottom of the datto mounts with a 10mm packer. I will get some steel next shift at work.
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Plenty of room behind the motor. I need it, the bellhousing of the gearbox came off the blody titanic. I want the motor as far back as possible, but the alternator is only 10mm infront of the crossmember as it is.
I was planning on A/C but i have no chance of running the compressor and the alternator.
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If anybody wants bigger photos or details let me know and ill post some up.


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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:53 pm 

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got engine and box mounted.

modified stock crossmember to fit vh gearbox mount and mounted crossmember 70mm back from stock location.
i put a 5mm cut in the crossmember and hammered it down
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datsun crossmember with vh gearbox mount
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i had to chop extra from the tunnel to get the gearbox back further and higher
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the engine mounts are mitsubishi diesel on some box spacers
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started on the exhaust. its pretty tight. not off shift for another 2 weeks so progress will be slow
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 Post subject: Re: 1968 G130 special six
PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:02 am 

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sweet ride... wish we got some of these old datto sedans

that girl is a keeper; its rare to find one that will help ya. Mine puts up with my hobby but thats about it.

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