Rant... Mitsubishi and Chrysler...

Komeuppance · **Posted:** Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:09 pm

Many ignorant people keep trying to claim (pre 90's) Mitsubishi's were designed by Chrysler, who owned a massive (sarcasm) 15% of Mitsu in the 70's and 80's. More prevalent are those who state that a Starion is a Chrysler. Even though it's based off of a 70's designed Galant Lambada, which was the successor to the Galant GTO (designed in the 60's). Looking at Chrysler design in the 70's and 80's, there's clearly no way they had a hand in design of a Starion.

To say that Chrysler had anything to do with a Starion is embarrassing.

/rant

-Robert

boxer3main · **Posted:** Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:56 pm

I believe they did.

they took a tin can usually constipated, kicked out to fatter if it meant square lines I could do in the backyard...

it only took japan 30 years to do the same.

there is a frustration looking at those cars. I like it.

RaptorReed · **Posted:** Sat Jul 09, 2011 7:40 pm

I call the Dodge Daytona the wannabe Starion lol.

seventhskyline · **Posted:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:25 am

Most people don't know or care who the parent companies are. Personally...I'd just learn to deal with this utterly insignificant little thing, or just politely correct them in discussion.

Also...LOL "to say that chrysler had anything to do with a starion is embarassing" - why? You didn't design it. You have absolutely zero intellectual capital tied up in the genesis of that car.

e-at_me · **Posted:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:04 am

i want a starquest...

Camshaft · **Posted:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:27 am

Incidentally, I have a book full of 70s car ads, among them an ad for the (1976?) Plymouth Arrow. The ad makes several statements along the lines of "WE built the Arrow to be..." or "WE designed the Silent Shaft engine...", with "we" meaning Plymouth in this case. Nowhere in the ad, in any sort of small print, did Chrysler disclose or mention their ties to Mitsubishi. The confusion you mention is understandable, since Chrysler basically lied about these cars from the beginning.

Komeuppance · **Posted:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:19 am

seventhskyline wrote:

Also...LOL "to say that chrysler had anything to do with a starion is embarassing" - why? You didn't design it. You have absolutely zero intellectual capital tied up in the genesis of that car.

Embarrassing for Mitsu. ...LOL. Duh.

EDIT: Actually, embarrassing for me because I would never buy a Chrysler product and relegate myself into that category of "Those who intentionally bought from Chrysler."

Embarrassing as well as those who make that statement, AND say to me "you obviously know nothing about the history of the car". Which is why this rant was posted.

Don't worry, I'm not going to go on a Skyline-50-wins-"debate" with anyone. I'll try to interject some knowledge in their path of ignorance, but if they don't want to know, then they don't want to.

-Robert

ToolZ · **Posted:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:15 pm

Komeuppance wrote:

Don't worry, I'm not going to go on a Skyline-50-wins-"debate" with anyone.

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Sven7 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:00 pm

Cam, you can read the fine print in this 1978 Plymouth Arrow ad that "Plymouth Arrow is made for Chrysler Corporation by Mitsubishi Motor Corporation in Japan."

:mrgreen:

RaptorReed · **Posted:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:20 pm

on my wagon

e-at_me · **Posted:** Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:46 am

i'm sure mitsubishi didn't care.. they needed money.. americans had way more respect for chrysler than bishi in the 70's anyways.. mitsubishi saw a chance for $$$$... they capitalized on it..

Camshaft · **Posted:** Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:42 am

Sven7 wrote:

Cam, you can read the fine print in this 1978 Plymouth Arrow ad that "Plymouth Arrow is made for Chrysler Corporation by Mitsubishi Motor Corporation in Japan."

:mrgreen:

That's rather interesting. The ad I'm referencing is the "Miles & Miles of Heart" campaign from 1976, if I remember correctly. As RaptorReed pointed out, anyone smart enough to open the hood could plainly see that it was a Mitsu.

Sven7 · **Posted:** Mon Jul 11, 2011 2:36 pm

Camshaft wrote:

Sven7 wrote:

Cam, you can read the fine print in this 1978 Plymouth Arrow ad that "Plymouth Arrow is made for Chrysler Corporation by Mitsubishi Motor Corporation in Japan."

:mrgreen:

That's rather interesting. The ad I'm referencing is the "Miles & Miles of Heart" campaign from 1976, if I remember correctly. As RaptorReed pointed out, anyone smart enough to open the hood could plainly see that it was a Mitsu.

May well be. You should definitely buy one of those ads, scan it and post it for us :lol:

I guess the best way to solve the Mitsu/Chrysler wars, especially with rednecks, is to just call it a DSM and leave it at that. If you have a smartphone, have them watch while you search Wikipedia for "Chrysler Conquest" and watch it redirect to "Mitsubishi Starion". Also try this with early 80's "Challengers" and the like. :tu:

Camshaft · **Posted:** Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:44 pm

I'd be happy to scan the ad, but it's in a tiny, softbound book and I'm not sure how I'd go about it. The ad is about one third magazine size. I'll search online and upload it if possible.

Komeuppance · **Posted:** Tue Jul 12, 2011 9:30 am

Sven7 wrote:

I guess the best way to solve the Mitsu/Chrysler wars, especially with rednecks, is to just call it a DSM and leave it at that. If you have a smartphone, have them watch while you search Wikipedia for "Chrysler Conquest" and watch it redirect to "Mitsubishi Starion". Also try this with early 80's "Challengers" and the like. :tu:

Ah HELLZ NO, that is the worst way. DSM's were built in the Normal, IL plant in the US beginning in 88... eclipse(and variants). Anything before that was built in Japan.
http://www.mitsubishimanufacturing.com/ ... /index.asp

Quote:

Since the first vehicles rolled off the line in September 1988, employees at the MMNA Manufacturing facility have assembled eleven different models:

* Mitsubishi Eclipse coupe
* Plymouth Laser coupe
* Eagle Talon coupe
* Mitsubishi Mirage sedan
* Eagle Summit sedan
* Mitsubishi Galant sedan
* Dodge Avenger coupe
* Chrysler Sebring coupe
* Dodge Stratus coupe
* Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder convertible
* Mitsubishi Endeavor sport utility

-Robert

og rob e · **Posted:** Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:58 am

I find it interesting that the partnership with Chrysler which helped Mitsubishi enter the American market may be one of the reasons contributing to the company's current woes worldwide i.e. lack of direction and dismal product line.

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