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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:44 pm 

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Affen wrote:
Nice :)

Send me a quotation on a private message.


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While I was there to ask the prices for your parts, I took some pictures of some other parts that he was preparing, to send to some costumers.
I was amazed... :shock: .
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Maybe some you can use
The sheet metal parts are awesome, I have never seen these being sold anywhere.
He told me some prices on the stuff on the table .... I can not afford :cry:
Anyway , its very good that they are available!


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:35 pm 
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Ok, long time with no progress.
I have been prioritizing som other stuff lately.
Have been attending a few bicycle races and such.
But now I have been fiddling in the garage again.

The car is more or less stripped inside.
Have taken out the dash, ventilator, the pedals, cables and wires, insulation, wire harness, etc. etc.
Timeconsuming work!

Further I have cleared the engine, subframe and exhaust from the body.
I have been wondering a bit how to do that with ease, as I had set the body a bit to low for the engine to be pulled underneath. And my jack was trapped below the whole assembly.

Suddenly it appeared to me that this actually is a stripped N600 body... :p
One simply take the body and lift it with one hand, while doing what one need to do with the other.
Simple :D

And when a engine leaves its bay, one is obligated to pose inside... That's just how it is.. :P
Those who know me knows that I'm not the tallest of men.
I still look like a greek god in that tiny e-bay :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:36 am 
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I'm planning not to use any time working on single components before the bodywork has been done.
But I was kind of curious of how the spindle, hub and axle assembly was put together.
Axle being pressed directly into the bearing, and not just lead through the hub as "normal" for other cars.

Also, like always, the balljoint was of course stuck.
And since things are so small, there is not much space to play around with the big hammer. So I preloaded the bolt, gave the spindle a little bit of heat (carefully) and gave it a few taps with my brass hammer.

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 4:47 am 

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Looks like its coming along. If you find a source for new ball joint boots let me know.

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:53 am 
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Good information!! I have not done anything with my knuckles. It is good to know how they really come apart and the tools you used.

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 5:58 am 
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Thanks :)
I'm glad if the pics can be of help to anybody.

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 11:04 am 
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Some few more parts from Ray Cave the past week.
Once again, outstanding service :tu:

Took the master cylinder away from the car.
It is obvious that this one is one of the main reason for the brake system leaking.
A lot of crystalized brake fluid here and there.

I should try and soak the cylinder in some sort of fluid to loosen it up a bit.
I have heard that water is the thing to use as the brake fluid absorbs the water.
Was thinking maybe giving it a warm bath in some destilled water.
Any opinions on this? Good or bad idea?

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:27 am 

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Great work!
You are doing things with great care, this is the way to go.
Cant wait to see you start the metal work, it was the biggest "pain" on my car, but it is very rewarding to see it finished.
And those brakes...I took mine off the car but haven't rebuilt the main brake pump yet, it does not look much different from yours, same crystallized brake fluid and all, it just does not have the sensors for brake fluid level,one of the things that I could add to it.
I took a different approach to my restoration, by getting the metal and paint done, then the engine rebuilt and now I am doing all the rest(which is still allot).
Will keep watching this thread.


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:32 am 
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Christmas came very early this year

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:42 am 

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Happy X-mas Affen :lol: . Have you solved your master cylinder problems ?


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:38 am 
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pierren600 wrote:
Happy X-mas Affen :lol: . Have you solved your master cylinder problems ?


Thanks :)
No, I most probably wait until all the body rust has been taken care of before I start dressing up single components. I'm just making notes and asking questions for the time being.

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 3:22 pm 
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Long time since my last post.
Have had e few months of doing other stuff.
But now, as the nights are getting darker, I'm back in the garage looking into the 600 again.

Today I've had a go at the roof lining.
After fiddling with this by hand for like an hour or so, I gave up.
The front of the lining came loose quite easily, but the aft part was a pain.
I had to make me a tool for the job.
Once I had the tool it was out in seconds.

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I'm also having trouble getting the wire harness out.
The aft part of the harness is routed inside the A-pillar, above the passenger door and back down the B-pillar.
I'm not able to pull the harness free here without it getting stuck somwhere.
Does anyone have som advice as to how its done?
Have been thinking about cutting the harness before the A-pillar and adding a 9-wire plug.

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:07 am 
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Nice job, the linning was a nightmare for me too in special in the back LH and RH side, as you I had to make the tool with a old screwdriver and imagination cause the sizes for it and the shape are not very clear in the workshop manual I have....could you make a closer photo of your tool?
About the wiring still I am not removing it but should be possible to remove the harness electrical pins with a small screwdriver if you dont have a pin remover. In the worse of the cases you can cut in a place you can get together again with welding or connectors :wink:
Greetings and keep this way!


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:46 am 
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vynx wrote:
Nice job, the linning was a nightmare for me too in special in the back LH and RH side, as you I had to make the tool with a old screwdriver and imagination cause the sizes for it and the shape are not very clear in the workshop manual I have....could you make a closer photo of your tool?


Thanks.
Detail design of the tool is not so important.
I don't know how the original Honda tool looks, but I'm pretty sure It doesn't have to be that much accurate.
I did not make any special geometry to interface with the lining/body.
The key elements is the bend so you can reach down into the gap, and the T-shaped end to prevent you from poking holes in the lining material.

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:56 am 
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:D I think you are right, I will try to do a T smaller than I have made for removing it. Congratullations for that restoration, is not the same car but it almost the same and helps me a lot for my 360, keep going! :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:39 am 
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Was able to et hold of some new aft brake cylinders.
The ones on the car was leaking like crazy, so I'm pretty happy with this.
Could always renovate the old ones, but nice with these NOS parts.

Note that these are EDM cylinders, different from the USDM model.

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:42 am 
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Nice! is easy to find NOS parts for this car? Honda still sells spares?


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:32 am 
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vynx wrote:
Nice! is easy to find NOS parts for this car? Honda still sells spares?


No, I think everything is discontinued from Honda.
NOS seems only available from smaller restoration specialists and private persons keeping various inventory. Some parts are no problem to source, while others you need to be really lucky.

Your best chance is browsing various bulletin-boards, e-bay, etc. regularily.

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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:46 am 

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Hello again!
About this problem you have:
vynx wrote:
About the wiring still I am not removing it but should be possible to remove the harness electrical pins with a small screwdriver if you dont have a pin remover. In the worse of the cases you can cut in a place you can get together again with welding or connectors :wink:


I had the exact same problem and more, the rear wiring had been completely altered by some previous owner, and was not usable at all. I thought of making it from scratch but ended up getting a brand new one.
Anyway, installing it on the car was not so hard, today I took the connector apart wire by wire,taking note of colors of each wire and where exactly on the connector they were.
Then I just used a normal cable puller, regular electricians tool, to feed the harness from the light hole on top, dawn to the small hole next to the fuse box.
All that is left to do is reassemble the connector and put the grommets back on the wires.
I think it is allot easier this way, than trying to feed all those connectors wires and rubbers through that small hole.
Tried to add some pictures of the process but couldn't because " board attachment quota has been reached" , hope this helps.
I can try to add some pics later if you think it may help.


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 Post subject: Re: 1974 Honda N600 Restoration
PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:37 am 
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Thanks João :)
Picture is not necessary. I understand what you mean.

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