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 Post subject: 1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG updated with RB26DETT
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:15 am 

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Hi guys, joining the Nissan group since my Honda is still on work in progress. Some people might recognise me from the other Honda section. Seems to have gotten myself a 300ZX that has been transplanted with a red top RB20DET (200ZR) halfcut. Will get more pics when I collect the car next Friday. Paid deposit on the car!

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 Post subject: Re: 1983 Datsun/Nissan Z31 300ZX with 200ZR engine
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:07 pm 

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here's the photos from the dealer, looks like a bad respray!

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 Post subject: Re: 1983 Datsun/Nissan Z31 300ZX with 200ZR engine
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:27 am 

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 Post subject: Re: 1983 Datsun/Nissan Z31 300ZX with 200ZR engine
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 5:07 pm 
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Congrats on the purchase. !!

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 Post subject: Re: 1983 Datsun/Nissan Z31 300ZX with 200ZR engine
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:45 am 
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nice project.. but why does it look like when it was green the roof was cut off??


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 Post subject: Re: 1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG with RB20DET
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 3:41 am 

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hi guys, realised the car has a lot of problems. well, the car is actually a 1987 Z31 200ZG, with originall a VG20 engine, but transplanted to RB20DET redtop, so thats pretty rare i guess!

1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG with RB20DET

Collected the car, lots of issues!

1. Wiper set
2. Broken windscreen
3. Rust holes on bonnet and rear of the car
(More to be listed and assessed over time)

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 Post subject: Re: 1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG with RB20DET
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:07 am 
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it doesnt only look like the roof had been cut of, on the interior pic you can see the cut form the inside too..

whats up with that?

looks like a lot of work on it to get it a little decent!

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 Post subject: Re: 1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG with RB20DET
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 5:59 pm 

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bank auction car. previous owner did not paid up her debts, car was seized and sold by auction to public

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 Post subject: Re: 1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG with RB20DET
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:12 pm 
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that thing is beat might want to consider finding a clean shell and swapping everything over

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 Post subject: Re: 1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG with RB20DET
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 9:22 pm 

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body rust repairs will be sponsored by these guys

Playhouse garage

http://www.keretalama.com/garage-visit- ... t1152.html

In malaysia, rust repairs is cheaper than finding/buying this car itself

it will be used as a portfolio car.

A garage, which is affiliated with Top Secret has offered help in building the car up. Perhaps this car would be painted up in the trademark gold color

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 Post subject: Re: 1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG with RB20DET
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 11:21 pm 
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ah, malaysia :)
They can fix anything over there, i have seen remarkable stuff from over there!

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 Post subject: Re: 1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG with RB20DET
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 8:32 am 

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yeah the craziest builds are from this country! lol

Updated: 11/5/2011

Good news, the engine starts, but leaky fuel tank. Car has been sent to Autosave Racing in Bandar Sunway. They have gotten my car towed from Batu Pahat to there. Once the car was there, the car was jacked up and checked for fuel leak. They drained the fuel tank afterwards and proceed with fixing the leak issue. More photos attached below! I'd like to hear how the Z starts up and drives!

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 Post subject: Re: 1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG with RB20DET
PostPosted: Fri May 13, 2011 5:49 pm 

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the mechanic, Edison from Autosave also told me the following issues :

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I wish to share my humble opinion with you good self and please forgive if i'm wrong. I found out the entire under brace chasis frame of the car is very "crispy" and in very very bad condition, heavily rusted, the car is really not suitable for high power modification, even you send it to the chasis strengtern, they will help you to put some bar, welding back the joining point and insert the harderner form in to the chasis, but the problem is the base frame is very weak already, so no matter what kind of "supplements" add in, the base is weak, it will still crack at the bolt point (the point for tightern all bar) and welding point. Unless remake the entire chasis frame which is i think is mission impossible. If the the high power kick in and the chasis is not able to support during the race, then we are putting the driver at the high risk situation.


Anyone has an opinion on this, can the chassis be saved?

The following has been done to the car:

- fuel tank repair
- fuel hose replaced
- Service fuel pump
- Clean and service ignition coil
- Spark plugs replaced
- Battery replaced
- Top up engine oil and radiator water

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 Post subject: Re: 1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG with RB20DET
PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2011 10:36 pm 
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thats not so nice, if you have to replace complete chassisbeams from front to back, quite a bit of work, and offcourse everything can be done.. but it might be easier and maybe cheaper to get another car.

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 Post subject: Re: 1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG with RB20DET
PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 2:19 am 

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no worries eric, but lets see what the malaysians could do!

From : http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/ ... -post.html

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So I received a call from Edison. He was revving the old Nissan in the background and telling me the engine starts. So I was delighted with glee, knowing that the engine had start and thought it was actually cheap small fix!

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Boy I was wrong, travelled 200KM's south from my usual place of living, I came to realise that there was a miscommunication on the phone. What he meant is that, the engine could start, but in no ways possible to have a long distance drive all the way to Ipoh. So I decided to have a short drive in the old beat up Nissan to identify the problems associated with the car. Quick tip, when you are buying the car, make sure that the car your buying has the least problems and is running to avoid disappointments. Unless you really love the car, then no amount of money can justify your liking to the car.

YouTube - 1987 Nissan Fairlady 200ZG idling sound - Zerotohundred.com
Car was idling, but pretty rough and noisy

I've driven the car around the corner and wanted to drive to the guys in Playhouse Garage to assess the condition of the rust damage. During my drive, I noticed there's tons of things to be fixed. Speedometer not working, fuel gauge not working, side mirrors are gone, clutch was gone, body trim parts are gone, most of the things associated with the car was not working! I was stalling every moment because I was unable to engage into gear. I was being honked every time for stalling the traffic. After figuring out some neat tricks, I realised that I could have the car go on 2nd gear all the time and start cranking the car and try to crank it up on 2nd gear. It worked pretty well with that!

YouTube - 1987 Nissan Fairlady 200ZG acceleration test - Zerotohundred.com
Short test around New Pantai Expressway, heading the direction of USJ 1

During my drive towards USJ 1, I noticed the billowing of white smoke, coming out from my old Nissan. I realised the engine seals are gone, according to Edison. In order to change those seals, he told me that the engine has to be taken out from the car, which would incur a labour charge of RM800. With that amount, I would be more happier to inject the money to the purchase of a faster better RB engine. So I decided to ignore the problem.

YouTube - 1987 Nissan Fairlady 200ZG engine sealant leaking, gasket being eaten into - Zerotohundred.com
Look at my rear mirror, I was fogging white smoke to those road users at the rear! Poor them!

So I was able to drive the car to the next stop in USJ 1, where Playhouse Garage is situated. They are the masters of metalworks, restorations and chassis strengthening, he has fully assessed the car and found out there's a few bad rust spots. No problem! Our masters at work says it can be fixed, so let's check out what they could do to save this old lady, rejuvenate it and inject it with some good amount of automotive botox.

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During my way back, I encountered some traffic lights at almost every stops. Embarrassingly, my car stalled front in front of USJ1, right in front of Summit USJ! I was honked, laughed by passer-bys, even had a policeman on a Honda Goldwing passed right after me and offered no help. There were basically no good Samaritans left to actually lend a hand. Of course, nothing is not solvable with some money. I managed to get a tow truck to tow my car back to Bandar Sunway. Well, the idea of 10s of Ringgit, happened to be 80 Ringgits. The tow truck guy was not exactly helpful and basically pocketed large amount of money for a very short distance to tow. Alas, it was well worth it than being an embarrassment on the streets. This was no different to one of those road trip experiences that the Top Gear guys would do.

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It was a bittersweet driving around the Fairlady around Subang area. Although the moments were short-lived. It was fun accompanying your mechanical soul-mate to be driving around, till he has a heart attack and seizes. Now to give him a proper heart transplant, so he could live on and be healthy! With such a tight budget, we might not be able to purchase a Nissan Skyline RB26DETT heart, as it costs around RM9,000. We might have to go for a cheaper engine transplant, but we are flexible. Let's hope the sponsors keep rolling in!

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 Post subject: Re: 1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG with RB20DET
PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 8:39 am 
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for now, i would start with taking off all rust, welding the roof back on in a proper way and get brakes etc working properly.
you can buy rb engines and build them in a rusty bucket wit old brakes etc, but i guess thats not the right way of doing it.

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 Post subject: Re: 1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG with RB20DET
PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 10:04 pm 

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oh yeah, thats what the sponsors will do for me, im only documenting their work. most malaysians work for peanuts. even chroming are dirt cheap, i'd say that!

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 Post subject: Re: 1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG with RB20DET
PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 11:59 pm 

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Seeing its going to be a track car, Your bonnet and rear hatch look pretty rusted out, what about getting fibreglass ones? or if budget permits carbon fibre. might aswell do the front guards also.

Im sure if you cant find any for sale you could have parts moulded from your existing panels, lucky for you Malaysia has cheap labour and plenty of toolmaking companies.

Goodluck with the project, going by your other thread im sure this is going to work out to be a great track car once done.

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 Post subject: Re: 1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG with RB20DET
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:31 am 

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thanks for ur faith blanco ! well my honda is still awaiting parts sadly!! i hope my nissan build would be as good as you hope for!

haha, new addition, scale model!

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 Post subject: Re: 1987 Nissan Fairlady Z31 200ZG with RB20DET
PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2011 9:33 am 

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From : http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/ ... lysis.html

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I've recently dropped by Bandar Sunway, since I had a dinner to attend in Seri Kembangan. This time I decided to loan my dad's DSLR and took high resolution photos of the damages or broken parts that came with the car.

The first broken part was the damaged Right Brake Lens, found in the picture attached, as above. I am not sure how much does those costs but a quick browse on eBay shows that the replacement costs goes between $50 US Dollars to $150 US Dollars a piece.


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The second broken parts were the damaged/over-painted wing mirrors that are found in the pictures above. They costs about $50 US Dollars per piece on eBay. I don't think the wing mirrors can be fixed nor salvageable.

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There's a small crack on the center of the right side-marker door safety lens. Although they are not important for now, but in these are needed in the future, for the sake of a clean perfect looking interior. A piece of these goes for about $50 USDs to $100 USDs a piece.

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The key barrel and the door lever frame is missing from the right door of the car. The key barrel and door lever frame could have gone missing when the JPJ guys repossesed this car in the past. They must have forced opened the doors when the JPJ guys found the car in Kelantan back then and towed them back all the way to Public Bank, the legal financer of the car back then. Hopefully, Edison is able to help me source a new set of key barrel and frame.

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The rear wiper assembly including the motors, blades and wiper arms are gone. Hopefully, there are some half cut shops happen to stock them or its eBay again. Price is unconfirmed, as I haven't found one surfaced on eBay yet.

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Next on the problem list are some notable rust on the front top part of the roof. These rusts look nasty. There were also rust at the rear top part of the roof, but not as bad as the front. There were also some rusts near to the fuel filler cap and the wheel arch. I'm sure these body panels can be saved by our rust and chassis restoring experts at Playhouse Garage.

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