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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:01 pm 

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Found my 4" grinder today. It was in the linen cupboard :roll:
I'll take 2 1/2 coils out of a pair of XF Falcon springs I have sitting around here and use them in the front, the Lovell's springs I have in the rear might be up for some choppage too depending on how much the front comes down

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'00 Magna- 6G74, 5spd. Sensible, reliable daily, gets along pretty well though.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:05 pm 
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funny talkiong about the chopped springs. I accidently cut too much off the back of mine so the front was higher than the back :lol: I couldnt have that so I cut the fronts, well I cut them a bit too good and was on the bumps, but it was level so eh.. need coil overs lol.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:13 pm 

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Ha, well, mine's got lowered springs from a '77-'80 model in the rear so it already looks a bit like a speedboat lol

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'00 Magna- 6G74, 5spd. Sensible, reliable daily, gets along pretty well though.
'79 Suzuki GS550- 580cc overbore, rejetted carbs.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:21 am 
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right on lol. The lower these cars go th ebetter they look. It's funny I never even took a good picture of what my car looked like after I started driving it on th bumps.

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88 starion x2, 83 starion
88 cordia turbo
87 Montero swb turbo, 1987 Minicab van Supercharged
86 mighty max 4x4
84, 85, and 86 lancer ex1800 turbo
78 lancer
73 galant coupe
65 Debonair Deluxe
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:22 am 

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I'm thinking 5-stud might be the go on this car, purely so I can run SHP wheels :P
5-stud converted flatbody Starion struts and a Hilux diff should do it :D
5-stud S13 front end could work too

EDIT: maybe not, if I do that I'll have a hell of a time finding decent 14-15" wheels when I get sick of the SHP's............lol

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'00 Magna- 6G74, 5spd. Sensible, reliable daily, gets along pretty well though.
'79 Suzuki GS550- 580cc overbore, rejetted carbs.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:38 pm 
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yeah, so many good 14+ wheels in 4 lug I wouldnt bother unless you really like starion wheels. I've owned soo many starions that I usually want something else on them, but they o look good on the van.

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88 starion x2, 83 starion
88 cordia turbo
87 Montero swb turbo, 1987 Minicab van Supercharged
86 mighty max 4x4
84, 85, and 86 lancer ex1800 turbo
78 lancer
73 galant coupe
65 Debonair Deluxe
80's Hero
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:20 am 

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I had an idea a while back. The E7/AE86 guys steal the Sigma/Scorpion LCA's and press in the Toyota ball joint for their cars. Reversing this, if I use the Toyota ball joint, source a suitable strut top and get brake lines made up there's nothing stopping me from running AE86 or similar Toyota front coilovers/brakes :)
And if I want more front track width I can just swap to MX62 LCA'S, which are 15mm longer at 365mm :)
Thoughts?

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'00 Magna- 6G74, 5spd. Sensible, reliable daily, gets along pretty well though.
'79 Suzuki GS550- 580cc overbore, rejetted carbs.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:34 pm 
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could just get some starion struts, they are a bolt on, better brakes, and just make em a coilover.but it is nice just buying a off shelf coilover. Go for it if you want and let me know how it goes

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88 starion x2, 83 starion
88 cordia turbo
87 Montero swb turbo, 1987 Minicab van Supercharged
86 mighty max 4x4
84, 85, and 86 lancer ex1800 turbo
78 lancer
73 galant coupe
65 Debonair Deluxe
80's Hero
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:46 pm 

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Yeah off the shelf coilovers is one of the main reasons I was thinking of going this way, Starion stuff would be easier though

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'81 Scorpion- Daily thrasher/track project. 4G52, 4.6:1 rear end, suspension work etc.
'00 Magna- 6G74, 5spd. Sensible, reliable daily, gets along pretty well though.
'79 Suzuki GS550- 580cc overbore, rejetted carbs.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 12:43 am 

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Some pics of how it currently sits
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Stock springs vs GE-GH Lovells Low
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No springs, sitting on the bupstops :P 215/65R14 on standard 14x5.5 +24
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Definitely needs to be that low fulltime, the lower these things are the better they look :)

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'81 Scorpion- Daily thrasher/track project. 4G52, 4.6:1 rear end, suspension work etc.
'00 Magna- 6G74, 5spd. Sensible, reliable daily, gets along pretty well though.
'79 Suzuki GS550- 580cc overbore, rejetted carbs.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:04 am 
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I agree, they look man low. I was pushing my car around the parking lot today, and I wa slike man this thing is nice as it bounced around whenever I went over a bump lol. Keep up the work man.

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31 3000gt vr4
88 starion x2, 83 starion
88 cordia turbo
87 Montero swb turbo, 1987 Minicab van Supercharged
86 mighty max 4x4
84, 85, and 86 lancer ex1800 turbo
78 lancer
73 galant coupe
65 Debonair Deluxe
80's Hero
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 6:05 pm 

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This is what was wrong with the old oil pump:
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That's the hole for the chain tensioner. I had a spare pump sitting around, and Dad bought me a timing chain kit ages ago. It should all be back together and ready to go soon :)
I've got to buy enough brake fluid to fill the rear circuit and bleed the system, as I've replaced the rear reservoir. I'll probably do that today, depending on how much money I have left.

Anyway, my wheels are here :)
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Bit dirty, some gutter rash, but they're about what I expected :)

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'00 Magna- 6G74, 5spd. Sensible, reliable daily, gets along pretty well though.
'79 Suzuki GS550- 580cc overbore, rejetted carbs.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 3:30 am 
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any updates? :)


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:53 am 

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It's still shit? :P
Haven't been on for a while because I kept getting some sort of database error message after logging in. Weird.
Anyway, it turned out that the problem was an epic 7M-esque BHG. It looked like this:
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That's between 2 and 3.
It then looked like this for a while:
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So I fixed the BHG, put all new timing gear on it and drove it. For a grand total of 1200km, then a bearing shat itself. :roll:. Oh joy.
Pretty sure it's a balance shaft bearing, but as the bearings were on their way out before the BHG I think the extra compression that fixing it and skimming the head gave may have been a bit much.

Anyway, in between fixing the BHG and slaughtering a bearing the car got new shoes:
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Front: 14x6J +17 Fortran Mesh, 185/65R14 Simes.
Rear: 14x6J +10 flatface Cheviot Hotwires, 185/65 Goodyears.
Yes, it needs more low. I'm working on it.

CBF rebuilding, and I can't really afford to either. So another bottom end courtesy of an '89 Magna is in the offing, as soon as I buy myself a RWD S2 Astron timing case and sump, and a VRS kit. It'll all bolt up, but with the standard S1 head it will have mucho CR. Like nearly 12:1. Hopefully it lasts, otherwise I'm back to hunting bottom ends. I'll also need the gearbox from my other Scorpion, and the clutch and flywheel from the Magna.

The high CR wouldn't really be a problem, bar a few small things. Stock carb, stock cam, stock exhaust, stock exhaust manifold, you see where I'm going here? EVERYTHING else is completely bone stock. Which makes it seem kind of pointless, but we do what we can with what we have.
On the upside, it should make an extra 15hp or so :D

Rego's up soon too, on the 23rd. So somewhere in between swapping bottom ends, gearboxes and other assorted pleasantries I need to chase up $850 for that.

I should probably mention that I've been finding rust, rust and more rust every time I look at this.There's a hole in the passenger door jamb(sp?), one just behind the bottom rear corner of the passenger door and enough surface rust in the spare wheel well to make most rat rods jealous.
I've sanded the surface stuff as best I can and hit it with blue killrust, it looks like balls but it's not like people are going to see the crappy exterior and go hunting in the boot for more ugly. The holes will get bogged and primered once the bastard child motor is in.

This is very much the quintessential shitter, apart from the silly engine. Rust, bog, gay paint etc. It's shit, and it gives me altogether too much grief, but it's certainly cooler than the myriad Commodores/Falcons with dubz and subz that the other young'uns get around in. I suppose I should be grateful that I don't have to deal with an Emotec or Buick 3.8. My God, they are painful engines.

Anyways, this thread is now up-to-date. I'll be back with more updates and/or shit-talk about what I plan to do but never will at a later date :)

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'00 Magna- 6G74, 5spd. Sensible, reliable daily, gets along pretty well though.
'79 Suzuki GS550- 580cc overbore, rejetted carbs.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:06 am 

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I'm currently having trouble deciding whether to soldier on with this car, or move on and use it for parts for this:
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You can just see the back end over my Civic in this photo:
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This is what it looked like ca.2007
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It's a 1978 Chrysler GE Scorpion. Not sure if you guys got these in the US?
It's in tonnes better nick body- and mechanicals-wise, it just needs a windscreen, the wheels and front suspension/brakes from the GJ, the rear bumper and shocks from my current parts car (a '79 GH) and an engine to be ready to go. It's also lighter, prettier and should be faster than the GJ.

I'm going to Cobar (in western NSW) with Dad to pick up his VC Commodore tomorrow, so I'll talk it over with him then.

Edit: Speaking of rear bumpers, this is the one that'll be going on the white car. Anyone know how to get the black shit off it?
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'81 Scorpion- Daily thrasher/track project. 4G52, 4.6:1 rear end, suspension work etc.
'00 Magna- 6G74, 5spd. Sensible, reliable daily, gets along pretty well though.
'79 Suzuki GS550- 580cc overbore, rejetted carbs.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:24 am 

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Been thinking over the few minutes since my last post. If I do go with the white car I'm thinking this front end would look boss on it:
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'77-'80 GE Sigma SE. I like it better than the Scorpion front, and it'd look a hell of a lot tougher :)

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'81 Scorpion- Daily thrasher/track project. 4G52, 4.6:1 rear end, suspension work etc.
'00 Magna- 6G74, 5spd. Sensible, reliable daily, gets along pretty well though.
'79 Suzuki GS550- 580cc overbore, rejetted carbs.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:19 pm 
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jwebb2876 wrote:
It's a 1978 Chrysler GE Scorpion. Not sure if you guys got these in the US?


We did. Just badged differently, and with uglier bumpers. 8)

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Speaking of rear bumpers, this is the one that'll be going on the white car. Anyone know how to get the black shit off it?


Not sure what you call it down there (you fellas have a different name for everything :P ), but "0000" steel wool takes it right off. :tu:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:13 pm 

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Cheers for the tip :)
It's decided, I'm going with the white car. Well, I've decided. I still have to talk to Dad about it, because if he doesn't approve I won't get shed space or help :(
I have plans for the Honda, too. D16, 5 speed, coilovers, 15x8 +25 Enkei 92's, ditch the roofracks and paint it and it'll make for an awesome daily :)

Anyway, I'm buying the parts I need for my high compression motor on Monday. From there it's just a case of putting it all together, slotting the motor in, replacing the windscreen, swapping the wheels from the blue car over to the white one and going for a blueslip. With any luck it should be registered and on the road by mid-April :D

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'00 Magna- 6G74, 5spd. Sensible, reliable daily, gets along pretty well though.
'79 Suzuki GS550- 580cc overbore, rejetted carbs.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:12 am 

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Making a thread for the white Scorpion, all further discussion on that vehicle can go there. Kthnxbai :P

I've decided that the white car can be the traditional loud, rough idling, cunty to drive on the street carby NA car. This one is too rough to worry about crap like that. Seeing as with enough money and a large turbo thrown at it the humble 2.6 is capable of over 500rwhp, I've decided that EFI turbo is the way to go. It won't be that wild though. Half that will be plenty
I'll probably start out basic, a rebuilt standard motor with a Magna head and EFI, a Stage 2 cam and a T28 on an SPW manifold with a fuel-only ECU and MSD CDI. That may even be enough.
If not, I've built up a setup in my head that could easily see 400rwhp if I lean on it. Holset truck turbo, fully forged shortblock and a fairly epic cam, with individual throttles, Adaptronic ECU etc. ITB's probably aren't needed but meh, it sounds cool when you're telling folks about your engine and you can say "Hey, my engine has individual throttles!" :lol:
This car is also getting a side pipe and a screamer, because we all love cars you can hear come on boost ten blocks away. Yes it will be road registered. :P

Either way, it'll be backed by a Starion 5-speed and a Crown F-series diff, at least until I wreck the Staz 'box. R154 time then
5 stud S13 front end (file some holes out and it all bolts up, believe it or not ), 16x8 up front with 215/45, 16x8.5 on the back with 225/45. Most likely BBS RS, either that or SHP wheels.

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'00 Magna- 6G74, 5spd. Sensible, reliable daily, gets along pretty well though.
'79 Suzuki GS550- 580cc overbore, rejetted carbs.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 8:49 am 

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This is quite possibly the raddest factory Mitsu interior EVAR, I want it :D
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Pics stolen from hillbillyhector's Technica thread.

I pulled the motor from this last weekend. It ran No.3 rod bearing, there's a pretty awesome crack in the journal and the rod itself is fubar so yeah. Awesome.
I have the crank and rods from the Fagna engine, so that's not too much of an issue. Bearings cost a grand total of $120, rear main seal was $10, new spigot bearing was $10 and the clutch release bearing was $25, add $20 to that for a big tube of assembly grease and a stick of drilube and I reckon it turned out pretty cheap :D

I was told when I bought the car that it got a new set of rings and bearings a couple of weeks beforehand. It gets good compression (~175psi on all cylinders, both wet and dry) so it looks like the rings were indeed done, but from the condition of the bearings I dare say he was bullshitting on the bearing front.

Anyway, on another topic I was trawling through my build thread on another forum and found this:
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Bike carbs would be win. Very much so. In fact, I’ve been thinking and came up with a build plan for a motor :)
Parts list:
Rebuilt standard engine- $500ish
Camtech stage 2 cam- $not sure, but they're the only company that still has blanks
RPW double valve springs- $100/8
VRS gasket kit- $60
Modified stock intake manifold for quad carbs- $100 (if I cut down the manifold before I give it to the welding shop)
4x 38mm CV carbs- $200
0.5mm shaved head- $120ish

I’ve seen a pretty much identical engine pull 85-90rwkw, which is pretty impressive for a basically stock truck engine. With a high compression bottom end, a more aggressive cam and porting I can see it making another 20rwkw fairly easily, which would be heaps considering the car is all of 1100kg.


I like it :D
The American translation for those numbers: 85-90kw= around 110-120hp, 20kw= around 30hp and 1100kg= around 2400lb.

On yet another tangent, I've decided that since I'm going to have to fix some rust for rego anyway I may as well commandeer my mate's garage and paint it. I'm leaning towards the common as sheep shit under a shearing shed VN Commodore white, as (a): it's dirt cheap, and (b): white looks good on these things.

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'81 Scorpion- Daily thrasher/track project. 4G52, 4.6:1 rear end, suspension work etc.
'00 Magna- 6G74, 5spd. Sensible, reliable daily, gets along pretty well though.
'79 Suzuki GS550- 580cc overbore, rejetted carbs.


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