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groupb
 Post subject: NEW CELICA
PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:04 pm 

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FYI:

I have been lobbying Toyota really hard to name the FT-86 as a Celica. We will know soon.

Our last meeting (with Toyota Product Planning guys from Japan)- they were all stunned about me ranting about it. In fact, I felt it was my last chance to do so, so I laid it out strong and almost angry. (They were startled to see me all fired up- I usually just smile and joke around.)

"Celica is the original Toyota sports car." "The AE86 is based on cartoons and video." "The dimensions and weight are 1st gen Celica (AE86 too!!)" "Celica has won more events in more motorsport classes" "Celica has heritage and it's own line- the AE86 is a Corolla sub-class" "Remember Mustang, Camaro?- this has to be Celica!" "Whoever is handling this is a newbie, who never KNEW Toyota's most popular sports model" and many more one liners.

Just before flying back to Tokyo, one of the top (if not the TOP) guy in Toyoya Product Planning Japan called me again to reiterate my points. He took notes.

I challenged them to park 4 cars in front of headquarters- one each RA20 and AE86, and one each modified ones as used in racing. They knew I had a valid point.

I hope my message was not too late. If it indeed is named Celica..... they finally realized.

Scion tC was also meant as replacement- but it was FWD and Scion, so it did not matter.

About the "boxer" engine.....
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:22 am 
At the next meeting could you put in a word for a new MR2? I'm thinking an evolution of the last model with a Yamaha tuned 1.8 Valvematic engine. :wink:
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kingtoy
 Post subject: Re: NEW CELICA
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 8:18 am 
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groupb wrote:
FYI:

I have been lobbying Toyota really hard to name the FT-86 as a Celica. We will know soon.

Our last meeting (with Toyota Product Planning guys from Japan)- they were all stunned about me ranting about it. In fact, I felt it was my last chance to do so, so I laid it out strong and almost angry. (They were startled to see me all fired up- I usually just smile and joke around.)

"Celica is the original Toyota sports car." "The AE86 is based on cartoons and video." "The dimensions and weight are 1st gen Celica (AE86 too!!)" "Celica has won more events in more motorsport classes" "Celica has heritage and it's own line- the AE86 is a Corolla sub-class" "Remember Mustang, Camaro?- this has to be Celica!" "Whoever is handling this is a newbie, who never KNEW Toyota's most popular sports model" and many more one liners.

Just before flying back to Tokyo, one of the top (if not the TOP) guy in Toyoya Product Planning Japan called me again to reiterate my points. He took notes.

I challenged them to park 4 cars in front of headquarters- one each RA20 and AE86, and one each modified ones as used in racing. They knew I had a valid point.

I hope my message was not too late. If it indeed is named Celica..... they finally realized.

Scion tC was also meant as replacement- but it was FWD and Scion, so it did not matter.

About the "boxer" engine.....


If they would just pull that boxer engine, then I would consider buying one. I don't care what it's called.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:15 am 
Nothing would pluck my heartstrings in a more virtuoso fashion than a Yamaha-tuned Toyota inline-4,but for one thing "beggars can't be choosers" and we've had to beg Toyota for a sportscar and second the boxer does (correct me if I'm wrong) have Toyota's direct injection system,so it's not completely "alien".
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:56 am 
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Celica/86?

http://news.drom.ru/Toyota-86-13092.html
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Can you yell at them to make it look more like an RA20 as well while you're at it? :lol:

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I don't know squat about engines, but if the 'new' celica/86 has a boxer engine, wouldn't it be more appropriate to make this a Sports 800 successor? :lol: :P :roll: :wink:

p.s. Is it boxer or boxster?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:54 pm 

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dont really care the name but make it

under $25K
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naturally aspirated if possible
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ben
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:41 pm 
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toyotageek wrote:
p.s. Is it boxer or boxster?


That would be boxer, cause the 2 banks of 2 pistons each moving side to side is like two boxers duking it out. :)

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ben wrote:
That would be boxer, cause the 2 banks of 2 pistons each moving side to side is like two boxers duking it out. :)


Hmmm...is that a technical explination? I always assumed it had something to do with the layout of the engine being box shaped, or square?

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TSiSS350 wrote:
ben wrote:
That would be boxer, cause the 2 banks of 2 pistons each moving side to side is like two boxers duking it out. :)


Hmmm...is that a technical explination? I always assumed it had something to do with the layout of the engine being box shaped, or square?

Silly me,I thought it had to do with the engine sounding like a boxer dog with flatulence!
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TSiSS350 wrote:
ben wrote:
That would be boxer, cause the 2 banks of 2 pistons each moving side to side is like two boxers duking it out. :)


Hmmm...is that a technical explination? I always assumed it had something to do with the layout of the engine being box shaped, or square?


This is how I learned it, although I suppose it could be urban legend.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:42 pm 

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Looks like youve got the Aussie journalists on your side.

http://carpoint.com.au/news/2009/sports ... -yet-17144

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