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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:10 am 
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Interestingly, one of the rollaclub guys has noticed that if you look on toyodiy under "other" or "USA" that corolla's from ke30 come up, including:
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/q_G_1980_T ... _TE47.html


it shows the TE47... but if you try to go to any of the links... they are dead... at least the ones for 2TG powered

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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:55 am 
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parrot wrote:
Interestingly, one of the rollaclub guys has noticed that if you look on toyodiy under "other" or "USA" that corolla's from ke30 come up, including:
http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/q_G_1980_T ... _TE47.html


it shows the TE47... but if you try to go to any of the links... they are dead... at least the ones for 2TG powered


works fine if you choose older : 75-79` :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:36 am 
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Hey bud, did you end up deciding on a new set of rims yet? I was having a google for stuff and saw these guys...

http://retrowheels.wordpress.com/current-stock-list/

Can't vouch for quality or legitimacy never having used them, but couldn't hurt to do some digging if they've got a set that catches your eye...

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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 2:47 am 
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Thx for the research on ToyoDIY. I hadn't been able to come up with anything useful up until now.
Also just received a Toyota Quick Reference Parts Catalog on Corolla & Trueno from KE30 - 55 and TE31 - 51. It's a collision catalog, so does not include ALL parts, but they recon somewhere between 80 - 90 % of part numbers for the cars are in there. Will have to spend an evening soon diving into it trying to find part numbers for some of the bits I'm missing.

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Hey bud, did you end up deciding on a new set of rims yet? I was having a google for stuff and saw these guys...

http://retrowheels.wordpress.com/current-stock-list/

Can't vouch for quality or legitimacy never having used them, but couldn't hurt to do some digging if they've got a set that catches your eye...


Thx for that link Pseudonym! They've got some pretty cool stuff... Only wish I could find a set Tosco's in 7 x 13".
But nevermind, I have actually bought a set of alloys now. A set of clean 7 x 13" Watanabe's came up on Jap Yahoo Auctions and I managed to get them at a very reasonable price too. :tu: Now I'm sorting out getting them to Hong Kong, and next step will be finding out whether I can fit 205/60 under my standard arches or will I have to settle for 185/70 ??

I've also got my Momo wheel in there. What a difference!! Both optically but also the feel through the smaller diameter and much thicker rimmed steering wheel. I'm well happy with it... :P
I've been treating it with some Meguires Leather Cleaner & Conditioner and the leather is now soft again. But it's not as black as I want it, so will have to get some black dye for it too. Anyway this is how it looks now:

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Tried to get a bit artsy here... :oops: Just love those cone-covered instruments and really like my new key holder too...

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I also headed out for another Sunday Morning Drive with mates from the Classic Car Club of HK this last weekend.
A good mate took this pic from his Lotus Elise as we headed under the tunnel from the Hong Kong Island northbound for the mainland...

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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:40 am 
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Time for another little update.
While I spent the first couple of months of ownership just enjoying the Trueno on any backroad I could find, I have lately been getting stuck into a few small projects on the ol' girl.

It started with getting the lower bodywork absolutely perfect (see page 4 of this thread...). For that I also had to remove the black decals along the side of the car, which actually suited me fine as flicking through some Trueno brochures had revealed that the black stripes were not original anyway. Yes I confess, I do have a bit of an fetish for keeping my classics quite original. :oops:

Next up were getting the authentic look for my number plates. The "RW 4360" was a number from 2007 when the Trueno was imported from Japan into Hong Kong. I managed to buy an old number which should be 1977 correct, and then had the new plates done on old-school metal plates rather than the butt-ugly reflective plastic types that are used nowadays here in Hong Kong (similar to those used in the UK). I'm probably just being anal, but I think it actually makes the Trueno look better... :D

Despite my fetish for originality I also treated the Trueno to a very subtle bumper-tuck on the rear. The bumpers on these TE61 are quite bulky in comparison to the neat little items on the TE47, but I can live with that in the name of keeping things original. However, for which ever reason the rear bumper sticks out from the bodywork about 1 inch more than the front bumper does. It just looks odd and out of place to my eye. So the rear bumper was tucked in just short of an inch so it now extends from the bodywork the same amount as does the front bumper, and as a bonus the rear bumper now also lines up perfectly with the small indent on the rear fender made for the rubber wrap-around part of the bumper. A very subtle change that most would never even spot, but a big improvement on the overall aesthetics of the Trueno. :tu:

Finally, I also had a set of new lower body decals made up from the pics in the period Trueno brochures. It was actually quite a project, as I got quite pedantic about the whole thing and insisted that they need be 100% as original. At the same time I took the opportunity to put a bit of colour on the Trueno. Here's the result:

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In the meantime my 13" Watanabe have also arrived from Tokyo. YAY!! :P I'm well excited...
So I need to figure out how wide tires I can fit under the standard and unrolled arches, but before I can do that I really need to sort out the suspension first. I've already bought a set of King springs for the front which will lower 1 inch. But I need to source new shackles and bushings for the rear axle as well as blocks that will lower around 1 inch. Any thoughts on where I can best get these parts from.

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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:40 am 
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nice addition of color..... :tu:


Brainfart: With the outside looking sooooo nice now... you need to start doing the same kind of things to under the hood.

Recommend you get yourself a spare cam cover to begin with... and go about restoring it to original look

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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:57 pm 
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oldeskewltoy wrote:
nice addition of color..... :tu:


Brainfart: With the outside looking sooooo nice now... you need to start doing the same kind of things to under the hood.

Recommend you get yourself a spare cam cover to begin with... and go about restoring it to original look


Thx! :D

I can assure you that the engine bay will be thoroughly detailed in due time, but first up on my to-do-list is a full suspension refurb and 13" tires for my new Wats... :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Fri Mar 21, 2014 12:56 am 
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A leaking fuel pump and oscillation dampener has left my Trueno stranded for a while now.
As the EFi system used on the 2T-GEU is a Bosch K-Jetronic system, I immediately wrote Bosch Automotive Tradition in Germany, which as a special department set up for servicing classic car customers. Sadly they quickly replied that none of the repro pumps they stock nowadays will suit any of the Japanese cars. :( Bummer...

It all took a while, but thanks to Skorj I've now made contact with TH Service just outside of Tokyo. Takayuki Hirano runs this small workshop which specialises in classic Toyotas and Mustangs. Kind of an odd combo, but he seems to really know what he's talking about, and he's very helpful. He has an aftermarket fuel pump that will suit my 2T-GEU engine, but it does not have an oscillation dampener, so he's currently working on a solution to this.

As an added bonus Takayuki also has various suspension rubber mounts in stock. That's exactly what I'm missing for my upcoming suspension refurb. I've already received a set of NOS Bilstein Comfort gas shock absorbers from the UK and King Springs that lower the front by 25mm from Australia. With new rubber mounts and a lowering block kit for the rear, it'll all be ready to go... :D

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I also test-fitted my 6,5 x 13" Watanabe RS. I recon they're going to look great! 8) In my opinion the current 15" alloys are too big, and a bit of colour rather than the all black alloys should also be an improvement.
Now I just need some new rubber to wrap them in. With the offset of the Wats I can't go any wider than 185/70 R13 which is also the standard size used on Trueno 1600GT's. I use the same tire size for my BMW 2002's back in Denmark and always swear by Conti's, but somehow it just doesn't seem very authentic for my Trueno. I'll have to see if Yokohama or Toyo have something suitable in that size... :tu:

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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:13 am 
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SO HOT love this car!

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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:44 pm 
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Thx Matches! :D

Hopefully my next update will be of a up and running Trueno complete with lowered, re-bushed suspension and 13" Wats...

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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:22 am 
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Have you considered stepping down a little in rolling diameter, cause you can get Advan Neova and AD07 in 175/60R13, which would be a super neat tyre for something like this. They're rated up to a 6J width, but would easily fit on a 6.5J and not look too stretched. :)

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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
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Yokohama A539 is available in 185/60R13 80H, I have these on 13" 7J. Very little stretch.


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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:29 am 
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Thx for the input guys, but I'm a conservative oldskool kind of guy and as such prefer plenty of sidewall for that proper nostalgic look.
I would have prefered going 205/65, but that just won't fit under the stock arches with the ET of those new Wats. So sticking to 185/70 if I can find a decent tire in that size. Time will tell...

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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:30 am 
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High time for an update on my Trueno!

The whole fuel pump issue ended up taking waaaay longer than it ever should have for all sorts of ridiculous reasons. :td: But now - finally - the little Trueno is running sweet again with her new fuel pump!
I also treated her to a new gearbox mount and centre bearing for the prop shaft, which has tightened things up a bit. A have a set of new engine mounts for her too, but this will wait until I get around to detailing the engine bay. The current engine mounts actually seem quite good anyway.
With a fresh MOT (government check) we're back in business and enjoying the twisty roads of northern Hong Kong on every chance I get! :P Last weekend I joined the boys from Classic Car Club of Hong Kong for their monthly Sunday Morning Drive. Was great to be behind the wheel of my Trueno again!

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And Wednesday I took the Trueno out again for a run up to Sai Kung just because I had a few hours with nothing else to do. Bumped into a local dude with a cool little 2nd gen. Civic who went absolutely nuts about my Trueno. :D Good times...

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I've also managed to finally gather all the OEM rubber bushings I need for the suspension together with the King Springs, 1" lowering blocks and NOS Bilstein Comfort gas shocks. So unless the Trueno suddenly throws another curve ball, I know what the next project will be. Should make those spirited weekend runs even more entertaining... :P

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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:51 am 
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Just got the chance to catch up on your whole thread Anders, I LOVE this car. Looks amazing, and I can't even imagine how fun it is to drive. Just reminds me I need to get a proper RWD manual trans JNC on the road again!

Can't wait to see it with the Wats on.

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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:36 am 
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Thx Brad! :D Much appreciated...
I promise you that I'll get fresh pics up as soon as the Wats come on! I'm thinking it's going to happen at the same time as I refurb the complete suspension and get a proper 4-wheel alignment done.

I've also been considering trying my luck with a bit of in-car footage from the Trueno. It obviously won't be the same as driving her yourself, but I suspect it'll give you a bit of an idea of what the driving experience feels like.
No doubt that a crisp little twincam, manual transmission and rear wheel drive with a LSD is a sweet recipe for undiluted smiles per mile... :P :tu:

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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:24 am 

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Longtime lurker, finally decided to join up. I haven't been tempted by many cars, but this one takes the cake. That's one sweet ride and I'm mildly jelly.

Since I'm in the USA, what good sites are there for checking out auto auctions in Nippon? I'd love to snag one of these and import it in.

Thanks! :D


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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:06 pm 
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DugIt wrote:
Longtime lurker, finally decided to join up. I haven't been tempted by many cars, but this one takes the cake. That's one sweet ride and I'm mildly jelly.

Since I'm in the USA, what good sites are there for checking out auto auctions in Nippon? I'd love to snag one of these and import it in.

Thanks! :D


Thx for those kind words! :D

If looking for your own you could always start on Goo-net...
http://www.goo-net-exchange.com
There are other options too, but in my experience you need to be reasonably good at Japanese.
Best of luck... :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:36 am 
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Today I'm such a happy boy...!! :P
At long last I've got the suspension on the Trueno fully refurb'ed. New OEM rubber front and back on the rear leaf springs, new OEM strut mounts up front, 25mm lower King Springs up front and a set of four Bilstein Comfort gas shock absorbers. Along with that I found a set of Dunlop SP Sports LM703 in the correct 185/70 R13 size that I wanted to wrap around the old Watanabe RS alloys that I bought in Japan a while back. To wrap things up the ol' girl was treated to a professional 4-wheel alignment too.

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One small glitch though. Even after having bought two sets of U-bolts and lowering blocks for the rear, I still haven't got a set that actually fits! :roll: It's a bit of a nuisance really as the Trueno's arse sits rather high now. I recon it needs to come down around 30mm to sit level with the front (which itself will probably drop a little further than on the pics once the new front springs settle in).
Oh well, I won't let that wipe the smile off my face! :D
She's so much nicer to drive too! Especially the rear has been massively improved with the new bushings. Much more stable and planted now! I'm sure the Bilsteins have a lot to do with that too though. The extra tyre wall is a bonus as well being not just more comfortable, but actually also offering less skittish and much more neutral handling with better feedback through both the steering wheel and seat-of-the-pants.

I'm heading back to Denmark for three weeks of vacation tomorrow evening, so it'll sadly be a while before I drive her again. At least I know she's ready to go-go as soon as I'm back in Hong Kong again... :tu:

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 Post subject: Re: '77 TE61 Trueno Sprinter 1600GT - JDM
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Looking good - instead if new u bolts, just keep accelerations to keep the arse down :-)


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