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 Post subject: What is lightest/fastest Toyota/Lexus motor that fits te21?
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 6:06 pm 

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I have a 13b rotary in there now, but may be switching back to Toyoya...I'm sure most of you diehards will be pleased with that. The rotary is nice because of the weight aspect and the RPM's. I'm not concerned about period correct or anything. Something good for track and street. I'm sure there are a lot of different opinions but are there 6-cyl. that fit but still light and how much more work is it to get it to fit? Is it worth it from those that have done the conversion.

Or better to go 4-cyl, (turbo/intercooler) etc. Just getting ideas. I've seen a Mazda RX-4 with a Toyota 2JZ-GE (But not sure how that would handle on the track with weight). The Orange one in pictures.

Open for suggestions, again, doesn't need to be period correct, modern ok, probably better, track use and street, weight to HP main concern. And would need matching tranny 5-sp or 6-sp. Or stick with the rotary and just work on tuning that. Currently 13B GSLSE Street port with 48 Weber Downdraft IDA. matching 5-sp.

Pictures of some I've seen. http://pix.kg/g/G6190329251105:1290329251105/scl

Model below it on most of them.


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 Post subject: Re: What is lightest/fastest Toyota/Lexus motor that fits te
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:08 pm 

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4AG would probably be best bet for lightness and power (especially with turbo/supercharging capabilities), but if you wanna go crazy Beams 3S-GE (or GTE) comes to mind. You could also go for the 2RZ-FE or 3RZ-FE (2.2 and 2.7 L respectively) Tacoma engines. I think the most beastly would be a 3.4 V6 from the Tacoma (with TRD supercharger). Obviously going straight six would require a lot more work than shoehorning some I4 or V6 in there.

For my TE-27, my ideal non-original motor would have to be a stroked 4-AG running a set of 45mm sidedraft carbs.

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 Post subject: Re: What is lightest/fastest Toyota/Lexus motor that fits te
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:32 pm 

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Thanks so much, I didn't even think about those Tacoma engines...


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 Post subject: Re: What is lightest/fastest Toyota/Lexus motor that fits te
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 10:51 am 

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1UZ is all aluminum 8)


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 Post subject: Re: What is lightest/fastest Toyota/Lexus motor that fits te
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:44 am 
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If anyone could ever make a v6 toyota work in a RWD configuration I would be all over that!! Too bad they all came in 4WD or FWD setups.

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 Post subject: Re: What is lightest/fastest Toyota/Lexus motor that fits te
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:28 pm 
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UtahSleeper wrote:
If anyone could ever make a v6 toyota work in a RWD configuration I would be all over that!! Too bad they all came in 4WD or FWD setups.


Good a place as any to ask this question then. :roll:
You can drop a 1MZ-FE from a Camry into an AW11 or a SW20.
This works because the engine is transversely mounted and you use a 3S-GE transmission from either an MR2 or a Celica which bolts straight up to the 1MZ-FE.
Would it be possible to mount it longitudinally in the front of a car and use the 6 speed gearbox from the BEAMS black top 3S-GE powered Altezza RS200 or are they completely different?


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 Post subject: Re: What is lightest/fastest Toyota/Lexus motor that fits te
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:10 pm 

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UtahSleeper wrote:
If anyone could ever make a v6 toyota work in a RWD configuration I would be all over that!! Too bad they all came in 4WD or FWD setups.


Might be rare in Utah but Hawaii has loads of V6 2WD trucks.


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 Post subject: Re: What is lightest/fastest Toyota/Lexus motor that fits te
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:01 pm 
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ToolZ wrote:
UtahSleeper wrote:
If anyone could ever make a v6 toyota work in a RWD configuration I would be all over that!! Too bad they all came in 4WD or FWD setups.


Good a place as any to ask this question then. :roll:
You can drop a 1MZ-FE from a Camry into an AW11 or a SW20.
This works because the engine is transversely mounted and you use a 3S-GE transmission from either an MR2 or a Celica which bolts straight up to the 1MZ-FE.
Would it be possible to mount it longitudinally in the front of a car and use the 6 speed gearbox from the BEAMS black top 3S-GE powered Altezza RS200 or are they completely different?


I think the rwd trans is different...............but I dont actually know for sure.......May have to do more research. Surprised I never put the 2 different things together.

And last time I looked, it seemed like all of the yota trucks and suv's that were V6 also were only auto.....again, more research time lol.

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 Post subject: Re: What is lightest/fastest Toyota/Lexus motor that fits te
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 11:14 pm 

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u need to put a 2tg very respectful power its a twin cam and carbs also :)


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 Post subject: Re: What is lightest/fastest Toyota/Lexus motor that fits te
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 6:49 pm 

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You could just rebuild the Rotary and go for a bridge port. Or turbo charge it.
Or do both.


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 Post subject: Re: What is lightest/fastest Toyota/Lexus motor that fits te
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:26 pm 

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The 1UZ V8 is very light and can get loads of power when done right, but it's very wide. Trying to squeeze it between your fenders is the key question. I think it may be the same for the 3.4 V6, which I would love to see as a swap, as I was interested in doing that swap in a Crown that I almost had my hands on. I know that some of the 4runner, T100 guys are getting decent power with the TRD supercharger. I think it would also be very easy to find one out of a 2wd truck. But, the transmission on those things are quite the solid piece of metal, may have to do some cutting to get it to fit.


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 Post subject: Re: What is lightest/fastest Toyota/Lexus motor that fits te
PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:28 am 

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I personally prefer a, 4AGE, turbocharged or supercharged either.


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 Post subject: Re: What is lightest/fastest Toyota/Lexus motor that fits te
PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:26 pm 

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if you want to keep it light but not sacrifice the power there are many options there is the toyota 4age/4agze (16v or 20v), 3sgte or 3sge BEAMS, 2/3rz, 3tgte, 1uzfe.

this is my 73 toyota carina ta12 with a 3tgteImage


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