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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:13 pm 

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29/1/13 Update

I had a productive day in the shed yesterday, thanks mr public holiday :)

Got my transmission cooler hooked up so was able to fill her up with ATF and took her on her maiden run, driving out of the shed and up the driveway. Its probably the first time its been driven under its own steam in over 30 years.

I put the grille and headlights in

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Washed the dust off

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Vacuumed all the perished foam out of the car, and then started installing the seats and seat belts.

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Just waiting on my carpet underlay to arrive so that I can put the carpet in and then the rest of the seats.

Progress is good :)

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:14 pm 

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Update 3/2/13

Bit more time spent in the shed today. Crawling around inside doing underlay and carpet and then fighting to get the front seat back in when its sitting much higher than it used to be thanks to underlay and carpet.

Cnut of job really.. reminded me why I paid the trimmer to do the Celica!!

Looking good though...

Underlay
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Front carpet and retrimmed seat
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Back of the front seat, and rear carpet. Still needs to be trimmed up some more.
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And the wheels and tyres have come together
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Not sure what I am going to do about the dash top yet.. better get thinking.

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:14 pm 

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Update stardate 17/2/13

Thought I might try using a Japanese rising sun flag as a dash mat.. I think it will work with some tidying up

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Baby's got new shoes

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Back seat is in properly now
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Scored myself a old school roof rack off ebay
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And thanks to importmonster and yahoo japan, got myself some round fender mirrors
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Massive lowering job to come....

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:15 pm 

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23/2/13

Faffing about.. put my hubcaps on... should stop the red wheel hate I was getting from some quarters :)

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and now sunvisor on too... thanks AJ :)

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:16 pm 

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Then we fast forward to 1/7/13

This thread has been very quiet due to a distinct lack of motivation on my part.

In part due to being unexcited about pulling all the door trims off so that I could fit the right hand side chrome strips on. Fortunately on the weekend I got over that.

ta da!

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Door trim job was easier than i was expecting, so happy days. The one on the front guard required removing the inner guard - glad I did, the amount of dirt and leaves hiding in there was impressive. The lack of rust was also impressive, I was half thinking I would find scary stuff in there, but it was nice and clean.

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This photo shows me trying to get her started again.. its developed a slow cranking issue in recent weeks and won't fire any more. Main power feed to the battery gets hot quickly, so I am thinking I have either an issue there, or bad earths. Any one else got any thoughts? Its weird, because it was ace a few months back, and aside from time passing nothing has changed...

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:17 pm 

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10/8/13

Still trying to work out my starting problem:

So after getting the starter motor done, replacing power and earth leads, and now having my mechanic mate look at it, we are pretty certain that the engine has bearing issues.. something is binding up as it is turning over.

So its engine out time :(

Debating whether to just have this one done up.. or sling something else in. I like the idea of an EFI 5MGE but looking at another conversion done on toyotacrowncentral, I reckon my heater/blower box will get in the way.

One of the lads in TCCAV has a 4M he had rebuilt ten years ago that has been stored in his shed. That looks like the best option. Its also got a 3 speed auto, which might be a good thing to have.

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:17 pm 

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15/8/13

Good news update:

Good news - got the Crown towed to the mechanics and he pulled the engine out yesterday. He found the oil feed line had fallen off - back in 1982 when Don put the engine back together, he clearly hadn't done up the nut before he put the sump on. No wonder he had oil pressure issues back then!

The better news is that there appears to be no damage to bearings or crank and the engine is now turning over very freely by hand. Win!!

Hopefully next week we might be close to being back on the road :)

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:19 pm 

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29/8/13

So just for some closure on my engine dramas... the good news is she is running smooth and sweet again!

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Turns out when old mate put the engine back together in 1981, he didn't tighten the oil hard line nuts, he simply rested it in position.

So with some oil pressure, it fell off and landed in the sump, and that (along with no oil pressure) was what was giving me binding as it was turning over. Was plain as day when the sump was off. Fortunately, through sheer luck, it didn't damage any bearings or the crank, so it has all been screwed back together and is running sweetly.

Driving back to the work carpark from the mechanics was my first drive of any note in her. Thoughts - drum brakes all round are interesting, and the transmission hopes into second/top gear at about 5km'h, meaning its nearly a one speed auto! Other than that it drives and steers very smoothly. I was surprised.

So plans now are to finish off a few jobs that are must do's for rego like get a new mufflers on it.

Then I will dump it into the weeds :)

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:20 pm 

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14/11/13 - update time.. another time gap as we were having our first baby :)

I drove the old girl home the other day so I could finish a few jobs off in the comfort of my own shed.

Highlight of the trip (other than a temperature gauge climbing higher than I would like) was a girl in a very original, but rather beaten up, Datsun 1600 (p510) sedan cruising next to me and giving me the big thumbs up.

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Still to do is fit the beaten up rear trim I got off my parts car, sort out the rusted muffler, club rego and lowering.

I am still searching for a few bits to finish her off:

*badges for tail gate - "crown" and "crown 6" emblem
*unbroken handle for the rear tailgate

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:20 pm 

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16/11/13 update

Working to have it done for Classic Japan!

As you know 11 week old babies make it hard to get shed time, so I took the day off yesterday to try and get a few jobs knocked over.

She now has a new exhaust system from some where up near the front, all the way through to a new muffler and tail pipe. It is now so quiet. Possibly quieter than the one year old Commodore in the driveway lol. I had to check it was still running the first time I pulled up at a set of lights.

So Long asked about a sound system. I am going to run out of time (and permitted spending funds) to put the retrosound system in that I wanted. And stupid me left the suitcase stereo in the squareback even though the guy wasn't that fussed about it.

Still, that means I get to make another suitcase stereo... or in this esky stereo! Bought some speakers from Autobarnz today..(thanks Will!) and slotted them into the old "rat" esky I have had stuffed away in the garage. Shame they aren't retro looking speaker grilles, but oh well!

So when its sitting in the luggage area it will look like this from behind

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And like this from the cabin side

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This is what she looks like inside

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I will slot this mini-amp (on its way from ebay) into the glovebox (or maybe even the old ashtray if it fits). This is an improvement on the one in the Celica - it has a radio!

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Putting it in the glove box will mean easy to run power to, and easy to use the remote to change radio stations or plug in the ipod.

This means the dash will retain the classic look m too as I will install the old parts car radio into the radio slot on the dash. No one will be any wiser.

Will just have to run some speaker wire under the carpet and poke it out in the rear luggage area. Add a couple of connectors so I can disconnect them easy and take the esky out if need be, and there will be tunes ready to go for Classic Japan :)

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:21 pm 

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18/11/13 update

So things we have learned in the last 24 hours:

1. Diff u-bolts that were done up in 1967 do not want to come undone in 2013.
2. Angle grinders sort that shit out pretty darned quick.
3. It is always the last u-bolt you are doing up that is not to spec - this added an hour of tidying up u-bolt threads to a job that was to be "finished in the next 5 minutes"
4. It is amazing that even after adding 3 inch lowering blocks, the rear of the car could still go much lower - should have bought another inch ;)
5. Buying cheap Chinese mini amplifiers off ebay is fraught with danger. It arrived very fast - today. The MP3/Ipod in socket works beautifully. The FM radio function that I bought it for, not so much. Scans and doesn't pick up a single station. So have emailed ebay supplier with little hope they will be of much help.

That is all for today :)

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:21 pm 

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Location: Melbourne Australia
25/11/13 update

Things learned over the weekend

1. Cheap Chinese amplifier importers are dodgy as FARK - they are now offering me a part refund so that I can go and get the radio component fixed myself. Ebay/paypal dispute opened!!
2. King Spring KFL57 puts the front higher than stock when new (I imagine the old springs had some sag). So 3 hours of effort in the afternoon yesterday resulted in a car that was no lower than before, and much sads on my behalf.
3. Pulling front springs out for the second time in a day isn't much fun.
4. Taking Mr Makita to Mr King Spring sorts out ride height issues. In this case 1 full coil off leads to a significant reduction in front ride height. It is probably too low to be sensible, but it looks fucking ace.
5. Angle grinders still scare the bejesus out of me when in use.

Here is a pic taken at 11pm last night after I decided I wasn't going to bed until I had her low!

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All that is now left for CJ2013 is a good clean, sort out the wiring for the tunes and fit the hub caps for the final time. And maybe a quick drive to make sure the lows isn't too low!

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:21 pm 

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Todays update

I will just leave this here.... just about ready for our Classic Japan show on Sunday :)

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For any one contemplating lowering a MS47 wagon, the details are KFL57 front spring with a coil cut off, and 3 inch lowering blocks in the rear.

The cut front springs sat it on the bump stops, so they will need lowering too. Its probably too low to be practical, but it looks fucking ace.

Rear could almost probably have gone 3.5 inch or 4 inch blocks, but this will do for now.

:)

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:02 am 
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Must confess that I'm not a huge fan of the red steelies, but thankfully we all have differing taste... :wink:
Everything else about your Crown Wagon is just plain stunning!! 8) Love it to bits...
Reminds me just how bad I dream of owning a JNC wagon.

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 1:34 pm 

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Sweet wagon, glad ya saved her and doing it right! Hope ya find yer bits to finish it off...good luck mate! :)


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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:33 pm 
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Wow this is a nice wagon and you turn it up real well! Have fun 8)

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 6:15 pm 

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Very nice mate!!
I see you are on Rolla club as well.

Cheers and keep up your awesome work


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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:12 pm 

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Some pics from the Classic Japan show back in December

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:40 am 
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Nice progress. :tu:

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 Post subject: Re: 1967 Toyota Crown MS47 Wagon
PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:25 am 

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Tonight I finally lived up to my promise to Don, the previous owner of the Crown, that I would bring it down to show him when it was on the road.

He was very excited, rushing out with his camera to take a few photos so he could prove to his family that someone had bought it and had it running again.

He was not a fan of the red wheels, and found the rising sun flag dash mat hilarious! He hit me up for a ride around the block, so we went off for a cruise. He commented that the lowering had certainly made it a harsher ride. He loved the interior.

It was an entertaining hour or so - he was full of tales and jokes and I came away a little sad that I am selling her! It drives so well and gets so much attention on the road, its very very cool.

Anyways here is Don posing with the car. His smile says it all.

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