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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. 1987 Skyline coupe
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:54 am 
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Fantastic! I played there at Easter and had a ball- it's a great place.

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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. 1987 Skyline coupe
PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:46 am 

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Marulan fun
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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Trackday pics up!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:16 pm 
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Sweet! where is that place? marulan?

looks kike great fun great pics and lol fail for the white 31


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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Trackday pics up!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:52 pm 

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It's about 20mins north of Goulburn in NSW.
Fun little track, 2nd/3rd gear, tight, gnarly, about 1km long, not too hard on the car.
Heaps of fun.
Owned by Gary Wilmington of Group C/A fame.

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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Trackday pics up!
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Marulan incar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nGJgh6wJzA

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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Trackday pics & vid up!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:16 am 
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Nice bit of oversteer at the 2min mark :)

Also I note from the pics above that the front spoiler is intelligent enough to wait until the powerslide concludes before it comes down... :)

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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Trackday pics & vid up!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:35 am 
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Sif over steer in that sexy white one, gee that car is mega sexy i cant believe the owner ever decided to take it to a track.
He must be a man of pure awesomeness.


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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Trackday pics & vid up!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:25 pm 

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Lol
Yes indeed he was a stylish individual.

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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Trackday pics & vid up!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:31 pm 

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Gotta admit, the more I come to this post the more I want a dr30.... Seriously, your car looks awesome, and I love that you actually track it. Never been a huge fan of trailer queens.


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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Trackday pics & vid up!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:04 pm 
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would be even better if it were a DR30 tho.


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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Trackday pics & vid up!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:21 pm 

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The car is an HR31.
The model after the DR30.

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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Trackday pics & vid up!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:02 pm 

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31GUN wrote:
The car is an HR31.
The model after the DR30.

An got am image of homer shouting Doh! And facepalming? I was reading about the DR30 this morning when I posted that. Still that's not as bad a gaffe as when I called my wife by my exes name.... That was bad.


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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Trackday pics & vid up!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:40 pm 

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Good to see some track photos of the 31 Hooks, looking good. The Youtube vid was entertaining too. The exhaust seems a little quiet though?


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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Trackday pics & vid up!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:28 pm 

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It's not "Look At Me!" spec.
Should make a side pipe for better videos :D

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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Trackday pics & vid up!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:48 am 
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Still that's not as bad a gaffe as when I called my wife by my exes name.... That was bad.


How are you still alive? :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Trackday pics & vid up!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:25 pm 

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Camshaft wrote:
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Still that's not as bad a gaffe as when I called my wife by my exes name.... That was bad.


How are you still alive? :shock:

Because my wife has adopted the single greatest habit out there. She listens to what I mean not what I say. That and I'm constantly doing stuff like that so she's used to it.


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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Trackday pics & vid up!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:04 pm 

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All praise to the understanding wife. :tu: :tu: :tu:

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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Trackday pics & vid up!
PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:44 am 

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I went to a Dyno day today and was pleasantly surprised.
a bit of preparatory explanation here.
My boost controller spikes in boost and then settles.
The first run peaked at 13 psi, settled to 11psi and produced 142.6 kw at the wheels, which translates to 191.2 horsepower at the rear wheels.

So I decided to ramp it up a bit and went a half turn on the controller.....we'll get back to this.
A 1/4 turn produced the sheet you see below
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peak boost is 15.9psi and settles to around 13psi
peak power is around 7000rpm to 7200 rpm and at these revs it is only boosting around 12-12.1psi.
the power starts to level off at 5500rpm.
This was a bit of a surprise because I thought it would be around 4000-4500rpm.
Between 4500rpm and 5500rpm the power goes from 75kw (100hp) to 150kw (201hp)
So it basically doubles the power in 1000rpm :D
That is why it hits 4500 and goes LUNGE!!!

Back to the half turn story.
If you follow the trajectory of the above power line, imagine it continuing upwards.....
It cracked 170kw (228hp) at 5750rpm and 20psi when the operator called a halt with a bit of detonation.

Interestingly, the air/fuel ratios were if anything on the rich side, ramping from 14:1 down to high 11:1 at full boost. Even at 20 psi.
That tells me that the detonation is caused by timing, which would be the Japanese chip in the ECU.
After a small talk with the dyno guys, it will run all day every day as it is now.
But if I were to perhaps embiggen the exhaust (it is a 2 and a half inch press bent at the moment) and tune some of the timing out we could substantially embiggen the power curve.
Oh, and get a boost controller that doesn't spike :roll:

Finally, a little (creative)accounting.
Driveline losses are calculated at 30%
So 152.8kw divided by 70% = 218.28kw at the crankshaft.
Divide that figure by .7457 (kilowatt to horsepower conversion) and that gives me 292.71 horsepower.
That's as close as dammit to 300 horsepower at the crankshaft!
Yeah Baby :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Dyno results are IN!!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:32 am 

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A bit of perspective.
When you look at it, it's a pretty good result for an essentially stock car.
The intercooler is smaller than the stock GTS-R one.
And the exhaust is pretty much standard.
I should have done a run with the boost at standard to get a base line for these.

As it is now, it is punching around 218kw (292hp) at the crank.
The standard GTS-R was rated at 180kw (241hp) and the standard ECCS redtop 161kw (216hp).
The earlier NICS engine (the first version of the RB20DET) was rated at 152kw.

So, where to from here?
Well, I think the first port of call is a 3 inch exhaust.
Then maybe we'll look at tuning it.
It punches hard now, it has broken traction coming onto boost in third gear on a wet road at 100kph (60mph) which got my attention I can tell you. And that was with 10kw (13hp) less than it has now.
So I think we'll sit on it for a bit until some $$$ comes a calling.

On another note, another well known car was also at the dyno day.
It has a naturally aspirated 3 litre 6 cylinder L series.
Sound familiar yet?
How about when I tell you it has triple Webers, a lumpy cam, extractors, and a twin system.

Aaaanyway, it howled out a chunky 148.1kw (198.6hp) at the wheels

So basically, 15 years, an extra cam, 4 valves per cylinder, and a big hairdryer makes up for 1 liter of capacity.
Gotta be impressed with 198 horse power though :tu: :D

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 Post subject: Re: Project fade to black. Dyno results are IN!!
PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:51 am 
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I'm damn impressed with both cars, honestly. :shock: I can't wait to see the results after a 3" exhaust and a less dodgy boost controller. This car of yours is turning into a little monster! :tu:

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