My 1970 KGC10 2000 GT

kev · **Posted:** Tue May 15, 2012 11:25 pm

LOL @ 210 main jets

ericbauer · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2012 7:02 am

Even with those 210s I was getting a very surprising 18mpg hwy on the drive from SLC - I had honestly expected worse

DeRuX · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2012 8:00 am

How many miles do you put on the new plugs before rechecking them like that?? I have never done that before. Then again I have never had that type of carb set up.

ericbauer · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2012 8:23 am

Hey Reid

You don't need to wait THAT long to check how the new plugs are doing...
What's more important is that you run the car the way you want to drive it... so freeway / canyon driving so it can clear its throat and things inside the combustion chamber can be at optimum condition...

Putting new plugs in and put putting around town in bumper to bumper traffic isn't going to tell you much.

Kevin's been pretty happy with "6" heat range on his, in Australia...
I'll try a set of "5"s, but I have a feeling they won't be good around town in bumper to bumper traffic on a hot day...
They might however be really good on the track, we'll see...

So far though "6" definitely looks better than "7"

-e

DeRuX · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2012 8:37 am

Ya I just got new plugs installed on my DR and the guy told me to go out and drive it. But going to and from work kind of sucks so I didnt see how that would help. So I guess this weekend I will be doing a little canyon drive to clean it up and then have him check the plugs.

ericbauer · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2012 9:30 am

Or just take a couple runs up & down 880 or 580 or the 92 or whatever's nearest to you...
If you've been put putting around town a lot with the car, you may want to pull them, clean the carbon build up off with fuel, and then put them back in so you get a true-er reading?

And maybe order up yourself a set of plugs for the next hotter range, so you can swap and compare.
With NGKs, use the same letters just change the number by 1 like I did (I went from a 7 to a 6)
I don't use other brands of plugs than NGKs so their numbering scheme might be slightly different if you have another brand?

YOu can do this at home - you don't need to bring it to your guy...
Just make sure you have the right socket size for the plug head.
And on your 4cyl, the plugs are deep inside the valve cover, right? Use a length of 3/8" or smaller fuel hose jammed over the terminal to fish them out once you've unscrewed them

Use this to help you get started reading plug colors:
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/tech_support/spark_plugs/faqs/faqread.asp

post pics and i'm sure we'll be happy to give you an extra set of eyes..

-e

kev · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2012 3:06 pm

IMHO, modern fuel has additives and stuff in it, so reading plug colour ain't what it used to be.

But, those plugs look just like mine, which is to say not fouled or dangerously lean

. Also with these carbs, even when well tuned, they will have rich spots in their curve in city driving.

If you are concerned, fit an MSD6A to sop up that unburnt fuel

ericbauer · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2012 4:03 pm

One step ahead of you Kevin - car came fitted with an MSD7AL2

Random question: right above the pull handle for the hood release, there's another round pull handle... I can't seem to see any difference anywhere when i pull / push it? what does it do?

kev · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2012 4:16 pm

Operates the fresh air flap for the eyeball vent on the driver's side

They tend to break on the inner end, so that is prolly why it doesn't seem to do anything

ericbauer · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2012 4:25 pm

but there's a separate pull DOWN mechanism that seems to connect to each eye ball vent's tubing at either side of the dash

So the pull out brings fresh air in,
And then the pull downs regulate if you want air on one side eyeball vent or both

correct?

must not be connected on my car cause i can't feel a difference at speeds

thanks kevin

kev · **Posted:** Wed May 16, 2012 4:43 pm

Each eyeball has its own duct from the cowl,I'm pretty sure they can't be linked side to side.

The pull-out mushroom stalk thing was broken on my car, so I've never used the vents

. But possibly there is a second flap to direct air into the footwell instead of the eyeball

But then again...there isn't a pullout thing on the passenger side, right?

Norcal510 · **Posted:** Thu May 17, 2012 10:47 am

ericbauer wrote:

I think I've changed my mind 18 times about the "Wind" badges...
The mounting holes are clearly visible inside the trunk so it would be easy to get them in exactly the right place.
I just don't know if I want to pierce through the red paint or not...

Thoughts?

Eric,

You have my vote for putting them on. I went through the same problem w/my km on the rear skyline badges. In the end I feel I made the right choice.

Looking great. Hope to see the car soon.

wookieballa · **Posted:** Thu May 17, 2012 10:21 pm

Hey E, did you get around to changing those plugs? my Hako was running really rough, and popping and sputtering, so today at lunch i broke out the brake parts cleaner, and my copper brush. pulled the plugs and cleaned them up. i got to thinking about what Kev was saying about reducing gap sizes, so i checked my gaps, they were really close to 10, so i tapped them down to 8, put them in and started it up, i was expecting it to be eh... just ok, i guess. boy was i wrong. the car was super responsive, and had no flat spots anymore, i only frove it about 1/8th of a mile, but that little stretch was GREAT!

i have been having some serious fuel consumption issues, like no shit i burned 1/4 of a tank in 22KM's... thats HORRIBLE! im hoping it was due to the bad gapping and fouling i was experiencing.
more to come as i drive it more this weekend.

got your new visor ordered, did i already tell you that?

ericbauer · **Posted:** Fri May 18, 2012 7:35 am

Haven't ordered the "5" heat range to compare yet. Will call it in to the local parts place today and maybe swap them in over the weekend.
The "6" that are in there right now and already gapped correctly.

I'm going to go a step down or two on the pilot jet and see if that cleans up the loading up of the carbs just before WOT
I'll do that tonight and then take it out to a local car show early Saturday morning to see if it helped.

Don't get me wrong, I feel like I'm close to ideal... just trying to noodle that extra little amount out of them...

1/4 tank in 22km????
You sure you don't have a straight fuel leak Tim?
No puddle in trunk, under car, or in heat shield under carbs?

What kind of jet sizes are you running in yours?

ericbauer · **Posted:** Sat May 19, 2012 7:37 am

Josh Clason's Depth of Speed video about the red car is at 99500 views!

Might break 100k today!

Swapped out to 62.5 pilot jets and took it to local Saturday morning hot rod show
I think the smaller pilot jets helped a little - carburetion is near perfect I think

If you're reading this and you're considering getting one I have another small nugget of advice:

Look at how old your tires are (date of manufacture is stamped on sidewall)
My 225/50R15 have plenty of tread on the back but no tire shop will balance them because they are 10years old

kev · **Posted:** Sat May 19, 2012 8:12 am

Josh's vids are outstanding...I like that other recent one about the 510 owning guy too

wookieballa · **Posted:** Sat May 19, 2012 8:30 pm

i will have to find my settings, they are written down somewhere..

i definitely don't have a leak, everything is dry.

i destroyed my header today

god damn speed bump leaving the base..
i put new tires on and it dropped the ride height considerably, i wasn't thinking and just rolled though base like i usually do, and BAM car stopped dead in its tracks, car behind me slammed on the brakes, i looked under the car, and the exhaust was just laying there. broke the header in tow pieces. i limped it to the parking lot nearby gave the exhaust a tug and it just came right out.

i talked to my friend and he says he has another header he will sell me, so thats cool. I'm so pissed though. it pretty much destroyed my rear roll pan, it was pushed all the way out and broke the welds on both ends. they only sell replacement roll pans in FRP now, so I'm really bummed about that!

sorry to thread jack E, i didn't mean to LOL

ericbauer · **Posted:** Sun May 20, 2012 11:05 am

You'll get it fixed... Don't worry... Takes a lick and keeps on ticking

I'm sure someone on base is handy with a welder and can set you straight

ericbauer · **Posted:** Sun May 20, 2012 1:17 pm

Took the red car out to the local Saturday morning car show in La Canada and was surprised how well attended it was.
I got there at 6:30am and was among the first ones there, so front & center parking! But by 7:00am there was already 50cars and more were coming... The resident old guys gave the red car a lot of love... One guy called it "cute"... lol...

I put a handful additional pics here on my flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8628771@N08/sets/72157629818804086/

Did some basic work on cleaning up the front end a bit... paint and chrome were looking a bit tired on grille and headlight surrounds. So I worked on both:

I got lucky with how this picture turned out - I like it a lot:

ericbauer · **Posted:** Mon May 21, 2012 8:02 am

Found this pic on CNCPics.com just this morning:

This is from 2 weeks ago when I met up with Eric F and his silver 4dr at Cars n Coffee

If you want to see the red car in person & come say hi, I am taking it to Supercar Sunday in Woodland Hills on Sunday May 27
Directions here: http://www.supercarsunday.com/location

If you plan on bringing a skyline, let me know maybe we can roll in together?
I'm thinking of getting there between 6:30 and 7am.

My 1970 KGC10 2000 GT

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