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 Post subject: Anyone here ever drop a Civic 1200 into a N600?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:28 pm 
Wondering how practical this idea might be.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 5:54 pm 
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Due to the packaging constraints of the N600 engine bay, swapping anything but the stock engine into it is a very difficult proposition requiring tons of fab work. :x

As such, it hasn't really been explored much and little is known about swapping anything into an N600.

But I'd love to see it done. :tu: :mrgreen:


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One of the back burner projects at our shop is swapping a '92 Civic engine and 5spd into the rear of an N600, though... :P


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 6:03 pm 
I've seen a datsun 1500 (or maybe it was a 1600?) dropped into the front of an N600. It had been converted to RWD. I figured it would be easier to drop in an old 70s 1200 as it's already a FWD longitudinally mounted engine.

Space constraints are most concerning. And where to put the shifter. The N600 has its shifter hanging from the dash, so I guess I'd have to cut a hole in the floor? (assuming that there's even enough space.)

My friend has an old N600 sitting around and I saw a 1200 engine for sale real cheap, this may happen.


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Robertblake wrote:
My friend has an old N600 sitting around and I saw a 1200 engine for sale real cheap, this may happen.


I hope so. :mrgreen:

Seen a lot of wacky and wild N600 engine swaps started. So far, none of them finished. :|


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Any ideas on shoving a transmission down the little Honda's throat?


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If you mean RWD, it will probably need a floor swap from a different car. Or at the very least a donor trans tunnel will have to be welded in. There's no way to fit a RWD trans without it.

A friend built a Mini Cooper with the floor and strut towers from a B210, and using a B210 engine/trans/diff. Worked fairly well, but took a lot of cutting and welding.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:09 pm 
My plan is to keep it FWD. I'm just wondering if there's enough room behind the engine or between the seats, seeing how the original shifter was be on the dash (I assume because there wasn't enough room?).


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Robertblake wrote:
My plan is to keep it FWD. I'm just wondering if
there's enough room behind the engine or between the seats


Room for what?

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seeing how the original shifter was be on the dash (I assume because there wasn't enough room?).


No idea why they did it that way. Probably so it was more of a direct input to the transmission, rather than a complicated linkage like later cars.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:17 pm 
Room for the transmission and shifter.

I'm used to working on huge American cars from the 60s, where everything is oversized, so I'm trying to adjust my thought proportions.


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But you said you were keeping it FWD?!?

If it's FWD, the trans will be beside the engine. In the engine bay. :wink:


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cannot do a FWD swap. There is not enough width to the car to fit the engine and tranny.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:34 pm 
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Ohhh okay, that makes sense. Looking at Mustangs and such autos for years, I've never taken any time with a transversely mounted engine.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:13 am 
Ah, the man is right, it doesn't fit. Well, it was cheap, and I guess I've got a good engine to drop in a civic roller, if I ever find one.

Was driving through GA yesterday and passed what looked like a Jap junk yard in the back of this guy's land. No sign or anything, but I saw to Mitsubishis and an old RX4. There were a lot more cars but I couldn't get a good look at them all.


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 Post subject: 1200 engine in a honda n600
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I once owned a Honda N600 that someone had installed a Honda 1200 civic engine in it, project was not completed but can be done. Axles, and brakes were one of the problems, I think if you extended the front end like what is done with the vtec min coopers then it would solve alot of the problems.


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can it perhaps fit a motorcycle engine, maybe a 600cc one for fit

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kev84 wrote:
can it perhaps fit a motorcycle engine, maybe a 600cc one for fit


This seems to be the way most people think when this topic comes up. But it has it's own inherent problems. No reverse gear for one (of course the car is light enough that you can push it back easily). And you'd have to fab or modify some kind of differential to fit it as you'll just have a single output flange on the bike's transmission and it needs to drive two wheels, so...

But a nice CB750 engine would be keeping within the era, and cheap and easy to get with a huge aftermarket.

Of course a later model CB1000R engine would be very quick and sound like a Formula 1 car on meth. :P


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How about a 1275 Mini? Not a bolt-in, to be sure, but it's extremely compact, and packs a lot of whallop.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:21 pm 
I had thought about finding a Geo 3 cyl or even an older Suzuki 3 cyl, if I was lucky enough to find one. Would be cool. But with the amount of power it might as well be the stock engine.

An old Saab two stroke 3 cyl would really make that thing fly.

If you were going to go with a motorcycle engine, a Goldwing 1000 wouldn't be bad.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone here ever drop a Civic 1200 into a N600?
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I got my 600 from my cousin bach in 1985, at the time he told me a story about a guy who had built a N600 with a v6 aluminum renault engine and trans and had converted it to RWD. I bet that was a fun car to drive. There are a couple S600's on youtube with motorcycle engine swaps....

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