Lincoln Stax wrote:
E-AT_me and JT191, you two obviously haven't been to your local Hyundai dealer recently. The Genesis Coupe 2.0 R-spec is basically the top-of-the-line 2.0Track model: 2.0 turbo motor and track-tuned suspension, minus a lot of extras that add weight. It's 68 lbs lighter and starts at $23,750, well under the price of the 2.0Track.
You say it won't work, it creates a conflict because most people equate price with speed. And yet they're doing it. That's because they're not aiming the R-spec (and one would assume the stripped down FT-86) at "most people." They're aiming it at you. And me. And everyone else who reads forums and blogs like this who understand that weight is the enemy.
The beginning of the thread describes trim level of a car that has not even been introduced, but with better suspension than standard, without all the luxury items, and at a lower price.
The example of a Hyundai Genesis lacks some relevance in the context presented.
The Genesis 2.0 Track is not the highest trim level of Genesis. The Genesis 3.8 Track IS
the highest trim level of Genesis.
The 2.0 Track and the 2.0 R-Spec both have the SAME
Brembo brakes, 19 inch wheels, Torsen differential, and "sport" suspension (according to the Hyundai website).
The Hyundai 2.0 R-Spec deletes the cruise control, trip computer, blue tooth, and steering wheel audio controls. The 2.0 Track has the addition of hid headlights, fog lights, rear spoiler, aero wiper blades, and aluminum pedals. Everything else is the same between the two vehicles: Infinity premium sound system, mp3/ipod connector, power sunroof, keyless entry, AC, tilt wheel.
It is inaccurate to describe the 2.0 R-Spec as a track prepared car, or a stripped down racing version.
It is also inaccurate to describe a 68 pound difference in vehicle weight, with the identical power output from identical engines, with identical transmissions, on identical suspensions, as making any significant difference in the performance between the two vehicles.
Also, keep in mind that this is a whopping 68 pounds on a vehicle with a curb weight of 3,300 pounds. Once you put oil, antifreeze, brake fluid, and gasoline into it, it's going to weigh 3,400+, and an adult human in the driver's seat, maybe 3,600. That's without loading a bunch of crap into the trunk. 68 pounds comes to 1.8 percent of the total weight. A real track version would have to drop ten percent of its weight before it amounted to anything serious. We're talking rear seating that does not have cushions or molded plastic side panels, no parcel shelf, crank handles on the door windows, etc. Not the difference between blue tooth or no blue tooth.
And starting out with a curb weight under 2,400 pounds would be a good idea if anyone wanted to actually keep a straight face when describing their car as "lite weight".