KresSlyda180 wrote:
F3ARED wrote:
BTW, isuzu owns you all...
Yeah, Isuzu is so great.. that's why they went bankrupt, abandoned production in the US and stopped producing passenger cars in the late 90s(kept producing ONLY trucks and SUVs) due to very poor sales. BTW, aren't they already extinct?
Isuzu never filed for bankruptcy.
Isuzu
did tender an offer to buy Nissan Motors outright around 1996, when Nissan
was in bankruptcy. The offer was denied by the Japanese government in favor of a French buyer.
Isuzu's North American distribution was severely limited by contractual obligations not to market or advertise their vehicles in markets that they might compete with the General Motors rebadged versions of their products. General Motors sold 360,000 Geo Spectrums, 280,000 Geo Storms, and 72,000 Buick/Opel Kadets in the US, all were made by Isuzu. Sales of these vehicles under the Isuzu name in the US was a very small fraction of those numbers, due to those marketing restrictions and a self imposed quota to keep GM happy. Three quarters of Isuzu's car production was being sold to GM for rebadging, and GM decided not to continue offering the Isuzu made cars (certainly not due to sales or popularity, because they outsold the Prizm which was continued). Isuzu made a difficult decision to stop making cars.
Isuzu bought itself back from GM in 2006.
GM declared bankruptcy in 2009.
Oldsmobile was phased out in 2005.
Hummer was sold to the Chinese.
Saturn's purchase by Penske fell through and it is no more.
Saab's purchase fell through and it is no more.
Is Pontiac still set to be phased out?
Chrysler was bought by Fiat.
Ford was not bailed out but now wants to renegotiate it's union contracts to compete with GM and Chrysler, who were bailed out.
Toyota just announced their sales numbers decreased, and they are closing 300 dealerships in Japan. Toyota's stock is down as a result of this news.
Isuzu stock is
up 50% since the economic collapse.
In the grand scheme of who is whose b-tch, Isuzu ranks in the middle to bottom of the list, below GM, Chrysler, Ford, Toyota, and Nissan/Renault.
Several car makers choose not to sell their cars in the US. Fiat, Lancia, Alfa Romeo, Seat, Citroen, Peugeot, MG, and Proton. Most of these companies are in good financial health. Meanwhile, the list of manufacturers selling cars in the US is also a list of companies teetering on the edge of doom and failure.
Back to the concept above, the 4200 R. That is a sister car to the Pontiac Banshee and Buick Wildcat. At one point it was rumored to have the F1 V12 mentioned in the other thread on this forum (not the COA, that one was the ceramic 16 valve I-4). The 4.2 liter 32 valve engine was the one seen on the show display. But the car was built at a time that manufacturers were more concerned with information connectivity than performance, and it was saddled with a PC computer, fax machine, pre-cell portable telephone, etc., and was meant to be a mobile office. Then again, I don;t remember the GT90 actually being an operable vehicle. The reality of concept vehicles is probably best ignored in favor of the fascinating shapes.
