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 Post subject: When are early EVO's allowed in?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:08 am 

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Location: Newfoundland,Canada
I know its not really old,but since it was never officially imported into North America,and since any 16 year old car in this shape is very,VERY rare where I live......

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Its a 1994 Lancer Evolution GSR,RHD,50000KM's and so far appears to be totally orginal and not messed with in any way.It rides/drives very nice and with about 260HP and only 2700LBS of curb weight has a LOT of grunt.Quite easy to shock modern cars in this one.

Now this should be fun at Targa Newfoundland.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:35 pm 

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I guess a 'classic' or 'nostalgic' car is up to the eye of the beholder, while I wouldn't consider it classic or nostalgic yet, it perhaps is borderline on 'retro'. Yours looks to be an Evo II rather than the original Evo, it has the Evo II bumper and wheels at least. I can't quite make out the chassis number on firewall but if it's an Evo it will be CD9A where if it's an Evo II it will be CE9A. Being a '94 it should be an Evo II as they started production in Jan '94 where the Evo ended late '93.

I don't think I've posted any pics of mine here yet, but I have a '91 E39A Galant VR-4 'Evolution' which I feel is almost 'retro' status, and perhaps 10 years away from being a classic or nostalgic car. Over here finding a clean tidy standard example is near impossible, which is why I basically stash mine away in the garage and only drive it some days.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:39 am 

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fuel wrote:
I guess a 'classic' or 'nostalgic' car is up to the eye of the beholder, while I wouldn't consider it classic or nostalgic yet, it perhaps is borderline on 'retro'. Yours looks to be an Evo II rather than the original Evo, it has the Evo II bumper and wheels at least. I can't quite make out the chassis number on firewall but if it's an Evo it will be CD9A where if it's an Evo II it will be CE9A. Being a '94 it should be an Evo II as they started production in Jan '94 where the Evo ended late '93.

I don't think I've posted any pics of mine here yet, but I have a '91 E39A Galant VR-4 'Evolution' which I feel is almost 'retro' status, and perhaps 10 years away from being a classic or nostalgic car. Over here finding a clean tidy standard example is near impossible, which is why I basically stash mine away in the garage and only drive it some days.


Here where I live the average life of a new car is only 8/10 years.....soooo 16 year old cars are rare.

Yes its a Evo2.

I think we had the Galant here as a DMS Eagle,but I can't really remember ever seeing one.Your car looks nice.I plan on driving my Evo every day :D .....plus as much racing as possible :D :D


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:14 am 
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moved to proper section


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:20 pm 
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I love both of your cars, especially the Galant VR4. Our rule of thumb is 25 years or older for that body style (ie, a 1986 Cressida is ok because that body style began in 1985). We choose do make that cutoff only because that's when most states allow historic license plates and classic car insurance.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 1:56 pm 
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Sorta on topic, but would it be a huge pain in the ass to register a pre-Evo 8 Evolution in California? Looking for one for stage rally and I'm not fancying the idea of expensive tires.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:37 pm 
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a 1985 AWD dodge colt is the same thing. :roll:

are those evos in newfoundland?

clean air 24/7, the zinc days of salt kills and crazy lead batteries died in the late 80s. That evo should be around for awhile.

in fact 1990-91 onward, some are gonna be surprised. As long as no new poison got in, like EGR generates, they'll stay good. :wink:

It does add to the rarity at the 25 year mark now (1985). that realm was still more hits than miss when it came to keeping J-tin good and clean and strong.


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TacoDelRio wrote:
would it be a huge pain in the ass to register a pre-Evo 8 Evolution in California?


Yup. 8)


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:16 pm 

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TacoDelRio wrote:
Sorta on topic, but would it be a huge pain in the ass to register a pre-Evo 8 Evolution in California? Looking for one for stage rally and I'm not fancying the idea of expensive tires.


Isn't there some sort of "off road" or "only for racing exemption"?

Otherwise build a Mirage.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:19 pm 

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boxer3main wrote:
are those evos in newfoundland?

clean air 24/7, the zinc days of salt kills and crazy lead batteries died in the late 80s. That evo should be around for awhile.

in fact 1990-91 onward, some are gonna be surprised. As long as no new poison got in, like EGR generates, they'll stay good. :wink:

It does add to the rarity at the 25 year mark now (1985). that realm was still more hits than miss when it came to keeping J-tin good and clean and strong.


My Evo,the white one,is in Newfoundland.

And what?

The rest of your makes no sense to me.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:01 am 

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ben wrote:
Our rule of thumb is 25 years or older for that body style


I can't find the thread, but in the previous discussions about defining what is classic, antique, nostalgic, etc., remained debatable.

There were lots of comments that anything without chrome bumpers and carburetors could not be nostalgic.

There were some who placed importance on the vehicle being a milestone of design, engineering, racing, etc.

Someone suggested a ten year date because that is the date the US government stops requiring the vehicle manufacturer to provide replacement parts.

There were some that suggested that anything that has moved beyond the current flavor-of-the-month and what the mass market magazines and parts manufacturers/retailers are catering to. And whatever these would call "old school".

The comment from the moderators (quite possibly Ben) was that the use of the word "nostalgic" had no year or styling requirement and was intentionally vague in order to include more than it excludes.

It might be time to set up some subsets of the overall group, because at this point, the website serves everything from Toyota AA to sixth generation Civic, which isn't a bad thing.

I own vehicles with a wide range of ages. None are new, and some are counterparts to the 1994 Lancer. None were ever the flavor of the month, or new school, so none could ever be old school. And much of my work on even the newest of these vehicles has turned toward restoration, which may be the best indication of how these vehicles should be classified. I consider all of them "nostalgic", and consider myself in good company with something like an Evo II.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:01 am 

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I couldn't imagine any car built in the '90's old school. I couldn't imagine a Honda Civic EF being considered old school. I see 1985 is being a perfect cut off year and I hope that it remains a fixed cut off year.

My opinion, of course.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:50 am 

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qdseeker wrote:
I couldn't imagine any car built in the '90's old school.


1991 Eagle Talon TSi - Kickin' It Old School
http://www.modified.com/features/modp-0 ... index.html

1993 Acura Integra - The New Old School
http://www.modified.com/features/modp-0 ... index.html

The Obscure One - Old School Shoot Out - 1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
http://www.modified.com/features/0604_s ... index.html

Lien On Z - Old School Shoot Out - 1990 Nissan 300ZX Turbo
http://www.modified.com/features/0604_s ... index.html

Old School Shootout - 90's Superchargers
http://www.modified.com/events/0604_scc ... index.html

1994 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX - Old-School Bully
http://www.modified.com/uscc/0412_sccp_ ... index.html


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:09 am 
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JT191 wrote:
qdseeker wrote:
I couldn't imagine any car built in the '90's old school.


1991 Eagle Talon TSi - Kickin' It Old School
http://www.modified.com/features/modp-0 ... index.html

1993 Acura Integra - The New Old School
http://www.modified.com/features/modp-0 ... index.html

The Obscure One - Old School Shoot Out - 1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
http://www.modified.com/features/0604_s ... index.html

Lien On Z - Old School Shoot Out - 1990 Nissan 300ZX Turbo
http://www.modified.com/features/0604_s ... index.html

Old School Shootout - 90's Superchargers
http://www.modified.com/events/0604_scc ... index.html

1994 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX - Old-School Bully
http://www.modified.com/uscc/0412_sccp_ ... index.html


er, all the same website?
any serious new old schoolers need go to jassics.com :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:37 am 

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matt wrote:
er, all the same website?

any serious new old schoolers need go to jassics.com


Sorry, the list of closed import and compact car magazines is now significantly longer than the list of open import and compact car magazines. And those with a searchable database is even smaller.

But that was five minutes of searching.

Jassics is a message board. It's probably a very nice message board. But it does not publish anything. It is not a quotable source of information. Message boards have a place, but they do not put their name and reputation on the line by publishing content that is written in stone, quotable, and verifiable. It has to be in ink to attain that status. However shoddy the reporting in the import magazines may be, they step beyond the status of message boards or a group of people sitting around a table, drinking beer, and talking cars.

JNC has chosen not to define any of these terms, and the rest of the world is defining them for JNC.

If that makes people feel older, or forces the chrome and carburetor crowd to realize they are in the same group as the 90's car owners... ...well, the world keeps moving even if people don't want it to.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:07 am 

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matt wrote:
er, all the same website?


A few more minutes of searching between the cycle of disassembling and restarting the PC:

Street Style
Old School: What’s Hot? What Will Be Even Hotter?
http://www.superstreetonline.com/eventc ... index.html

I like these quotes, the author waxes nostalgically about 1992...

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Remember when you couldn’t find a body kit for your car? Back in 1992, only a select few offered aerokits for the import aftermarket. These days...


Quote:
Back in 1992, having 16-inch SSR Super Fins on your car meant you were the sh—. These days...


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:09 am 
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1992.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:23 am 

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JT191 wrote:
1991 Eagle Talon TSi - Kickin' It Old School
http://www.modified.com/features/modp-0 ... index.html

1993 Acura Integra - The New Old School
http://www.modified.com/features/modp-0 ... index.html

The Obscure One - Old School Shoot Out - 1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
http://www.modified.com/features/0604_s ... index.html

Lien On Z - Old School Shoot Out - 1990 Nissan 300ZX Turbo
http://www.modified.com/features/0604_s ... index.html

Old School Shootout - 90's Superchargers
http://www.modified.com/events/0604_scc ... index.html

1994 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX - Old-School Bully
http://www.modified.com/uscc/0412_sccp_ ... index.html


I didn't see anything to change my opinion. Only thing close was the Talon.

And I laughed at the mention of Jassics. I left that site when he kept telling me that pretty much every Japanese car made in the 90s was a classic.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:39 am 

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qdseeker wrote:
I didn't see anything to change my opinion.

At all.



Quote:
Dr. Hibbert: Now, a little death anxiety is normal. You can expect to go through five stages. The first is denial.
Homer: No way, because I'm not dying!
Dr. Hibbert: Second is anger.
Homer: [yelling] Why you little!
Dr. Hibbert: After that comes fear.
Homer: [worried] What's after fear? What's after fear?!
Dr. Hibbert: Bargaining.
Homer: Doc, you gotta get me outta this. I'll make it worth your while.
Dr. Hibbert: Finally acceptance.
Homer: Well, we all gotta go sometime.
Dr. Hibbert: Mr. Simpson, your progress astounds me.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:28 am 

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JT191 wrote:
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Dr. Hibbert: Now, a little death anxiety is normal. You can expect to go through five stages. The first is denial.
Homer: No way, because I'm not dying!
Dr. Hibbert: Second is anger.
Homer: [yelling] Why you little!
Dr. Hibbert: After that comes fear.
Homer: [worried] What's after fear? What's after fear?!
Dr. Hibbert: Bargaining.
Homer: Doc, you gotta get me outta this. I'll make it worth your while.
Dr. Hibbert: Finally acceptance.
Homer: Well, we all gotta go sometime.
Dr. Hibbert: Mr. Simpson, your progress astounds me.


I find it comical when someone gets their feelings hurt over another person's opinion. Especially on an Internet forum.


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