a car and its title

Eric · **Posted:** Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:49 pm

what exactly is a car's title?

i am in the proces of buying two cars from the usa and import them to the netherlands but the shipping company will only transport cars if they have a complete title.
the title is the paperwork belonging to the car?

john · **Posted:** Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:59 pm

Eric wrote:

the title is the paperwork belonging to the car?

Yes. It is what we use here in the US to designate ownership. It's an official state document with the car's info and the owner's name. When one is sold, it is filed away by the state and a new one issued with the new owner's name. :tu:

The shipping company needs the title to prove the cars are not stolen. :wink:

bajasoobnut · **Posted:** Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:41 pm

Yep, to you those are the homoligation papers.

Cycletech · **Posted:** Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:37 pm

Some states don't issue Titles for older cars, so be careful.

Eric · **Posted:** Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:54 am

so, without the title a car is a useless piece of metal?

other than being stolen, what can be a good reason for a car not having a title? and, will i be able to check a vehicles identity somewere? if i have a VIN number? can i get a new title if the paperwork got lost somewhere?

bajasoobnut · **Posted:** Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:44 am

most states have a form you can fill out called a lost title form

usually it states that if they find the owner and they give it up that they will issue a new replacement title for it

r100guy · **Posted:** Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:11 am

The rules for having a title vary from State to State. Some states don't require a title for an automobile if the car is over 10 years old and will accept a "bill of sale" as an alternative. Other states require a title for registration regardless of how old it is. I have an old Mitsubishi with no title in Nevada. Without the title it can never be driven on the streets.
You can obtain a title from a title company such as Broadway Title- www.broadwaytitle.com but it can usually cost several hundred dollars for their service. Broadway Title will, at the very least, need a notarized bill of sale to start the title process.

jt191 · **Posted:** Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:30 am

The title is issued by the state and usually entitles the owner to pay property taxes on the vehicle. It would be required for getting registration, which is putting plates on the car so it can be driven on public roads.

Most titles in the US have the bill of sale or a fill in area on the back side to transfer ownership of the vehicle from the current owner to the buyer. Places to fill in name, address, date of sale, purchase price... Never use white out on one of these, that's the first good way to end up with a car without a title. Because only the last registered owner on the title can get a duplicate of that title to fill it out again without white out so you can file for a new title with you as the owner. Previous owners are usually unmotivated to help new owners after the money has already changed hands.

If the area for transferring the title is filled out wrong, whited out, or there is some problem, and the previous owner dies before the car is registered, this will also cause problems with obtaining a valid title. Always fun for buying a car, spending years fixing it up, then finding out the paperwork has problems and everyone who could fix it has died of old age before the car was put back into roadworthy condition.

You might be able to get by with a typed up bill of sale with everyone's signatures on it. It may need to be notarized (witnessed and stamped by a registered notary public).

john · **Posted:** Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:43 am

Eric wrote:

so, without the title a car is a useless piece of metal?

other than being stolen, what can be a good reason for a car not having a title? and, will i be able to check a vehicles identity somewere? if i have a VIN number? can i get a new title if the paperwork got lost somewhere?

Eric, you REEEEEALLY need to tell us what state you are buying the cars from. That makes all the difference in the world.

ben · **Posted:** Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:32 pm

Also, if the title has a lien on it, that means the owner took a loan to pay for the car, which means the bank technically owns the car until the loan is paid. Then the bank will issue a lien document that's similar to the title.

If the title has a lien, it will show a bank name/address somewhere below the "owner's" name. In that case, make sure you have the lien document as well.

Nismopunch · **Posted:** Mon Mar 29, 2010 8:18 am

what cars shipping out of the US? just out of curiosity...

yes and it also depends on the state from which you are obtaining the cars. unfortunately the laws/regulations are different from state to state.

Eric · **Posted:** Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:50 pm

datsunfreak wrote:

Eric wrote:

so, without the title a car is a useless piece of metal?

other than being stolen, what can be a good reason for a car not having a title? and, will i be able to check a vehicles identity somewere? if i have a VIN number? can i get a new title if the paperwork got lost somewhere?

Eric, you REEEEEALLY need to tell us what state you are buying the cars from. That makes all the difference in the world.

These were the cars i was looking for:

http://community.ratsun.net/topic/13033 ... ast-coast/

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3159071

But i just had a shipping quote for 4250 euros = 5700 dollars.
That is just a little too much for me right now, so maybe someone else will be happy buying these two

KresSlyda180 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:02 pm

Some states like Rhode Island will issue a title for a car, older than 10 years old... just by showing a bill of sale and the car's old registration.

Massachusetts SUCKS ass... they want a title for everything.

Garant · **Posted:** Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:51 pm

Eric wrote:

But i just had a shipping quote for 4250 euros = 5700 dollars.

is that a quote for a full container?

Eric · **Posted:** Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:21 am

the quote was for collecting the two cars in charlotte and transporting them to rotterdam, netherlands. the two cars would share a container.

jt191 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:15 am

Eric wrote:

the quote was for collecting the two cars in charlotte and transporting them to rotterdam, netherlands. the two cars would share a container.

You're going to face problems if the vehicles are running or if they have fuel and fluids. The freighter and the container company will prohibit putting an operable car or any flammable or hazardous materials (gasoline, oil, brake fluid, antifreeze, or a battery) into a container. They may have to have the engines removed and the fluids drained, or put the cars onto a "drive on drive off" ship (which would cost less anyway).

Oddly, they missed a OEM road flare (under dash), non-DOT tires, and other things, so who knows how closely the policy is followed.

Eric · **Posted:** Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:46 pm

well i explained the shipping company they were 2 running cars and they said it is no problem. they transport fully working cars in conatiners all time.

Garant · **Posted:** Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:11 pm

Eric wrote:

the quote was for collecting the two cars in charlotte and transporting them to rotterdam, netherlands. the two cars would share a container.

yes container shipping is pricey. is there any reason you cannot have them driven onto and off via an auto transport ship?

Eric · **Posted:** Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:25 pm

i really dont know. they should both be good running cars.
couldnt find a roll on roll of company who was willing or able to pick up the cars from the sellers house.

Garant · **Posted:** Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:41 pm

Eric wrote:

i really dont know. they should both be good running cars.
couldnt find a roll on roll of company who was willing or able to pick up the cars from the sellers house.

ah, okay now i see the problem ... perhaps you could pay transport to the docks? that shouldn't be more than a few hundred dollars

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