By all means.At best they have comedic value,with their grimacing evil pretensions and grunting vocals. Give me AC/DC any day!

Kev, what does shazza mean in england? I have no idea and my father is a Pom and I still dont know hahahah

and As for Alf 'Flamin' Stewart... that guy is a classic "Ya Flammin' Mongreul' , but im more of a Harold 'jelly belly' Bishop fan (nieghbours).

Look up Ronnie Johns with his Chopper Read acts, thats some good Aussie comedy for you

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I *think* (not 100% sure) that a shazza in UK context is a female "chav". And a "chav" is pretty much a real-life Ali-G type of person.

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I thought we were suppose to be talking about car terms?

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Jeff "Kingtoy" Brown
King of Toyotas
Sophisticated Toys - Toyota club

81 TE75 Corolla SR5 Sport Coupe modified
Custom 93 Toyota minitruck

a little grammar lesson for nissan & datsun:

ozzies and brits (and other commonwealth?) use the short vowel pronounciation

americans and japanese use the long vowel pronounciation
(probably the japanese got it from the americans)

japanese - dAttosan (adding the vowel between consonats)

this old tv ad is interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-C25F93JjA&feature=related
can't tell the dialect, but he's pronouncing Neessahn

Fellow aussies, what about the "Bevan"?? a derivative of a bogan, but wears a "flano" shirt, smokes "winnie blue's" and drives a Torana fitted with "12 slotters". Now there's a few new terms to add!

I should add the term "Bev chick" here too! They wear "uggies"

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Too many Mazda's in the collection. 4 Mitsubishi's, 6 Toyota's and now 3 Datsun's as well.
Putting together a Mazda/Japanese motor museum. New bigger venue for the museum has been bought, watch this space!

That's just a Queensland term I think

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Sounds just like a bogan to me. Smokes Winnies, drinks VB, wears a flanny, drives a battered Torana/Commodore/Falcon/Cortina and his girlfriend (never wife) wears ugg boots in public.

Think of what the US calls "White Trash" and you'd be pretty close.

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Brett Nicholson
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
75 Corona RT112 JDM Coupe 18RG
85 MR2 AW11 USDM 4AGE
74 Volkswagen Superbeetle 1303L
71 Mini Moke
65 Mini Traveller
09 Nissan Pathfinder

You lot don't forget the letter R. You save it up for a word where it has no rightful place, then tack it on at the end. Many years ago I suddenly realized that my friend Lorna was being addressed as Loaner.

Heheheh..."you lot". Damn! I will admite to being a bit of a parrot. If I spend too much time talking to native Strine speakers I start signing off with the popular phrase "cheese might"...and the bogan concept is easily understood when you stop to think that the El Camino, scourge of trailer parks and desert highways everywhere, is still alive and well in Australia.

So lessee, what other JDM/JNC terms are worth adding? I guess it would be helpful to know basic Japanese numbers (say, zero to twenty) as well as some of the popular nicknames like Ai Dabu, Esu Dabu, etc. perhaps a glossary of common parts terms such as TAWABA, rammer foot (tago), things like that - things you'd either hear a Japanese speaker say or would encounter when reading a webpage translated by Google or Babelfish.

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Aaron Willis
'85 AW11 7A-GE hybrid, MSnS-E, all kinds of weird crap

OTAKU = everyone on this site

I'm puzzled by this comment. The El Camino was never sold in Australia. Do you mean the generic "Ute" which is generally defined as a pickup with a bit of extra space behind the seats. Utes are a traditional part of the Aussie landscape and not generally bogan.

Cheers,

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Brett Nicholson
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
75 Corona RT112 JDM Coupe 18RG
85 MR2 AW11 USDM 4AGE
74 Volkswagen Superbeetle 1303L
71 Mini Moke
65 Mini Traveller
09 Nissan Pathfinder

Ha! Well, it seems this topic has taken off quite nicely, even if it has gone off on a tangent at times...

Unfortunately the extent of my Oz-speak has been limited to Paul Hogan (anyone remember the Paul Hogan Show?) and Steve Irwin. Anyhow, I got a chuckle out of what you guys have been saying!



If this dictionary/glossary ever really does come about, I'd like to see it more than just a Jpanese to English dictionary, since those exist already and can be had anywhere. What I'd really like to see is a multi-lingual, multi-cultural dictionary/glossary of JNC related words, terms, and phrases.

NUMBERS
But, since you asked, here is some info on the basic Japanese numbering system:

1 - ichi
2 - ni
3 - san
4 - yon / shi
5 - go
6 - roku
7 - nana / shichi
8 - hachi
9 - kyuu / ku
10 - juu

For 11 through 19, it's like putting ten together with another number - eleven is juuichi (ten one) while nineteen (19) is juuku (ten nine).

Twenty (20) is nijuu (two ten).
Twentyone (21) is nijuuichi (two ten one)
And so on...
Kind of confusing, but actually simple


Calendar Terms - Japanese Eras

Since ancient times in Asia, it has been the practice to count years according to the reign of an emperor. This custom has been going on in Japan for a long time with a few changes along the way. Modern Japan began with the Meiji Era, which started in 1868. During this time it was determined that the era begins on the day an emperor ascends the throne and continues until his death. Modern Japan has had four eras.

Meiji - 1868-1912
Taisho - 1912-1926
Showa - 1926-1989
Heisei - 1989-present

The SHOWA era is the one we are most concerned with since it is during this time that most of our beloved JNC fit.

Here is a handy converter from Gregorian calendar to Japanese Era
You can use it to determine what year your car is to what year you were born!

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Michael - Collector of Toyotamobilia ~ www.toyotageek.com
Tomica Fan Club ~ www.tomicafanclub.com

Nice one Michael

Also if you look at the numbers you will understand why Nissan factory racers are often #23. Ni-San.

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Here in the states "El Camino" or "Ranchero" has become slang for all Utes.

Really? So if you bought a new F250 would you still refer to it as Ranchero? (not sure if you were kidding or not)

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No, as the cab and bed are not attached.

I'm talking strictly about trucks made from cars, as in car-based trucks.

An F250 is anything but a car-based truck.

I do, though we draw a sharp distinction between utes (passenger car based) and real pickups. I guess the bogan/redneck/white trash association only applies to North America. And I've never met a woman who isn't absolutely repulsed by utes...

Huh? I think you mean that here in the US, all utes are Elkies and Rancheros - that's all we ever got, except maybe that one yeller Corona pickup down in SoCal:
viewtopic.php?t=1812

Sorry to sidetrack the thread so badly.

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Aaron Willis
'85 AW11 7A-GE hybrid, MSnS-E, all kinds of weird crap

No, I meant what I said. All the rednecks I know call all utes El Caminos.

And I hate to break it to you, but we got lots more Utes than those two.

So...if you rolled up to a trailerpark in a Sunny Truck/Bakkie with oil cooler hanging out the front, flared arches and -ve offset SSR MkIIs, the comments might be "Nice little El Camino"?

Now that's funny

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That'd probably draw a "WTF is that?"mate...

Now back on topic!!!