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 Post subject: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 11:14 am 

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I know that if someone wants your car, you can't stop them unless you are sitting there guarding her with a shotgun in hand. :twisted:

But I was just wondering what you guys do to increase security for your beloved cars.

I know we can do hidden fuel pump cuts for newer cars with electronic fuel pumps. But what about cars with manual fuel pumps?

Alarm systems are kinda useless. Steering wheel locks? Pedal locks?

Any suggestions?


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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 6:50 pm 
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I removed the locks, and the top. I also added an electrical cutoff thats very obvious. I figure if someone really wants the car, they will take it even if its got an alarm, is locked with the top on it. It really doesn't matter. That said, I never keep anything of worth in the car, and obviously don't bother to lock it.

I rarely lock my Alfa either. If someone wants the stereo in it, they can have it. It will cost less to replace the stereo than it will to replace a window they break.

Will

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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:33 am 

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My car still has the auto selector switch in the centre console from when it was converted to manual, I just use that as a killswitch :P

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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 9:19 am 

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Rad2Ltr wrote:
I removed the locks, and the top. I also added an electrical cutoff thats very obvious. I figure if someone really wants the car, they will take it even if its got an alarm, is locked with the top on it. It really doesn't matter. That said, I never keep anything of worth in the car, and obviously don't bother to lock it.

I rarely lock my Alfa either. If someone wants the stereo in it, they can have it. It will cost less to replace the stereo than it will to replace a window they break.

Will


just hope they are smart enough to try the door first.

I have kill swtiches alarms, removable steering wheel.
but still a flat deck could come load it up and know one would stop them.

pete


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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:09 am 
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I plan to make a hidden switch for the starter relay.

And maybe a diy level alarm, if the car is moved or touched roughly, the alarm is triggered.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 7:34 pm 
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Right now, nosey neighbors work very well. I also keep it looking like a piece of crap, that helps :) Eventual plans are for a large garage to store both toys and the wife's car. At that point, kill switches and fuel cut-offs will also play into it. Besides, who would want a junky old toyota station wagon :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:17 pm 
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Couple of other things you can do with old cars are to remove the distributor rotor and remove the wire from the coil to the distributor (sometimes it's just spade terminals on both ends anyway). Just make sure you don't lose them!

Or alternatively, you can also have dummy-wires. Say you have a random wire coming out of the loom, it's taped into the loom and everything, but isn't connected to anything. Plug that into say the coil, and tuck the real coil wire out of sight (or plug it into a relay or something nearby that's also a decoy). On a visual inspection, everything will look copecetic but it won't start.

It won't stop anyone really determined to get your car, but it will probably foil the opportunistic thief that isn't familiar with old cars :)

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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:16 pm 

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I figure few people know how to drive a stick, so that limits the amount of car thieves able to steal a car. You could have an alarm system that disconnects your starter if it gets broken into. My brothers supra has that, not sure how it works, anyone care to fill me in?


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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 9:45 am 
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viper alarm + quick release with hub lock

if someone really wants it, they will find a way to take it. i find keeping the car in the garage with a big dog helps too :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:52 am 
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I live in Japan. Neko.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:23 am 
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Kuroneko wrote:
I live in Japan. Neko.

A friend in Japan once described it to me like this: "Nobody will steal your moped from the train station....unless the yakuza comes, but then everyone's moped will be stolen." :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:44 am 
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kev wrote:
Kuroneko wrote:
I live in Japan. Neko.

A friend in Japan once described it to me like this: "Nobody will steal your moped from the train station....unless the yakuza comes, but then everyone's moped will be stolen." :lol:


at least its equal opportunity :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:19 am 

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None of mine run. Best security ever.

Actually, I lie. Some do but there's no batteries in any of them and they're all stashed on a farm that's so far out of the way that no-one would ever find it.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:51 pm 

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It's always been my understanding that few thieves will consider an old car a good target for a boost. I just can't imagine a pair of car thieves walking down the street, stopping at an old Japanese car, and saying to each other "Damn, a first year RX7 LS with stock wheels - looks mint! - these are way undervalued, and one of the few great sports cars of their era." So the two things you've got going for you is that your car is old, AND Japanese. ;^)

As you've said, those who want it will just flatbed it away, and at that point, you just file an insurance claim and take the money as compensation.

I'm personally more concerned with random acts of vandalism, which may leave you with a broken car that you can't get replacement parts for.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:10 pm 

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Removable steering wheel, Disconnect battery terminal, Pop out knife in seat, Deafening siren in headrest, electroshock door handles oh and so low that it cant be pulled onto a towtruck. :lol:

Oh and perspex windows so they bust up there hands or hit themselves in the head with there hammer.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:45 pm 

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Rad2Ltr wrote:
I removed the locks, and the top. I also added an electrical cutoff thats very obvious. I figure if someone really wants the car, they will take it even if its got an alarm, is locked with the top on it. It really doesn't matter. That said, I never keep anything of worth in the car, and obviously don't bother to lock it.

I rarely lock my Alfa either. If someone wants the stereo in it, they can have it. It will cost less to replace the stereo than it will to replace a window they break.

Will

I had a friend with a '90 Miata and lived in urban Chicago. He never locked the car but always put a 'the club' on the steering wheel (this was mid-'90s). Sometimes he would find homeless people sleeping in it, but nothing bad ever happened....until one time a thief cut the top to get into the unlocked car, used a prybar to open the unlocked glovebox and the unlocked center consol. And used that prybar to unsuccessfully remove the factory radio.
Nothing was stolen from the car since he always kept it empty, but the repair bill was several thousand dollars.

Not all thieves are good thieves....actually most aren't.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:48 pm 
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kev wrote:
Couple of other things you can do with old cars are to remove the distributor rotor and remove the wire from the coil to the distributor (sometimes it's just spade terminals on both ends anyway). Just make sure you don't lose them!

Or alternatively, you can also have dummy-wires. Say you have a random wire coming out of the loom, it's taped into the loom and everything, but isn't connected to anything. Plug that into say the coil, and tuck the real coil wire out of sight (or plug it into a relay or something nearby that's also a decoy). On a visual inspection, everything will look copecetic but it won't start.

It won't stop anyone really determined to get your car, but it will probably foil the opportunistic thief that isn't familiar with old cars :)



clever, long term thing to do.

of course, one could haul it off pretending to be a tow company.

if thereis a chnce to take and someone wants.. they will get even if it is a short time (law will catch up)

the other night I put fuel in the car while running, walked away from it for the store... a subaru 20 years newer than mine shows up, lady points the key at it to get the blinking lights and little horn to verify an alarm.

both old and new at the same place.

I still can't even do airbags with a comfortable thought...the alarm stuff is just as anti-faithed as the police shooting for wrong reasons.

I walk down the middle of it.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:24 am 
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I like the perspex window idea :)

but i guess a switch to cut off the starter relais will do just fine for any opportunist, if you have an immaculately restored car and somebody wants to steal it they will steal it, no matter what.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:51 am 
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 Post subject: Re: What do you do for security?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:19 am 

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thank u guys.Costa mesa toyota dealer


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