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    Hako Colour codes/names?

    Anyone know the paint code or even name of the Hakosuka KPGC10 'Silver'. Also that slightly off silver/grey colour (Did someone say Satin Bronze?).

    Paint codes and names would be ideal but any help is appreciated.

    Many Thanks.



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    Re: Hako Colour codes/names?

    Quote Originally Posted by Con2K
    Anyone know the paint code or even name of the Hakosuka KPGC10 'Silver'.
    Original factory metallic silver for the KPGC10 was Nissan #700, and was called 'Glare Silver Metallic'.

    There's some conjecture about the 'Glare' part of that colour name. Some would have it that it's simply a corruption of 'Grey'...

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    Re: Hako Colour codes/names?

    Alan, thank you. I'm not sure at this moment how useful the information is but it's a start rather than pointing at photo's saying 'this'.

    I like the champagne (greyish silver colour) too.

    Another project must be completed before I can make use of this information myself but a friend was interested to know also. He's thinking of a Hako based colour change for his '80's volvo!

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    Trouble is, this whole topic of colours is a very thorny one. You're very unlikely to see a KPGC10 still wearing its original factory paint today, and even if you did it would be likely to have faded to a shade quite different to its original appearance. Those that have been repainted - and this goes for the replicas too of course - are very unlikely to have been painted in the original factory colour. I don't think I've ever seen two KPGC10s side-by-side wearing exactly the same shade of metallic silver...

    If you're looking at colours from photos - or on screen - then they will often look quite different in real life and in natural light. For example, I don't think I've ever seen any two pictures where #920 'Gold' looked the same. I can't even take two pictures of my #920 Gold 1970 Fairlady where it looks the same colour in both.

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    Oh, I fully agree. The variation in photo's lighting, monitors, shades etc can never be overcome. The best representation is with your own eyes. Even so, my LS1 (Damson) Nissan can look like 3 or 4 different shades depending on the weather that day. Is the #920 Gold the one that looks sometimes orange, but sometimes yellow? (I remember seeing a fairlady Z outside the Nissan Dealership on the A30 in Truro, Cornwall 3-4 years ago. It was gorgeous.)

    It's not that it needs to be the exact or original colour. It's more that a correct representation of it can be found. I mean we all know a 'modern' silver may look completely different on an older car and make the whole thing look odd, no longer a period car in a period colour. It's more trying to get to the bottom of what colour pigments etc are used to make it. It's a dangerous game saying 'It looks like this modern car colour', having it mixed up, applied and then thinking, no this isn't right.

    Is there a known code/representation for the champagne colour of the Hako's?

    In saying that, even the original Nissan colour codes aren't much use really are they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Con2K
    It's more trying to get to the bottom of what colour pigments etc are used to make it. It's a dangerous game saying 'It looks like this modern car colour', having it mixed up, applied and then thinking, no this isn't right.
    The formulas for the Nissan colour codes on the C10-series are quoted in the technical literature for the cars, but I'm guessing the codes for the tints and their quantities would probably not transpose to the tints of modern paint manufacturers.....?

    Quote Originally Posted by Con2K
    Is there a known code/representation for the champagne colour of the Hako's?
    Which colour are you talking about, as the C10 GT-Rs were not offered with any colour I'd call champagne? In fact, the GT-Rs had a very limited colour choice ( and just four colours for the KPGC10 ). Is it from one of the other C10 variants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HS30-H
    The formulas for the Nissan colour codes on the C10-series are quoted in the technical literature for the cars, but I'm guessing the codes for the tints and their quantities would probably not transpose to the tints of modern paint manufacturers.....?
    Thanks again for the reply mate. Do you have access to the technical literature for the C10? Having spoken to the guy who owns the paint shop, he is confident he can mix sympathetically, if he has something to go off.

    Quote Originally Posted by HS30-H
    Which colour are you talking about, as the C10 GT-Rs were not offered with any colour I'd call champagne? In fact, the GT-Rs had a very limited colour choice ( and just four colours for the KPGC10 ). Is it from one of the other C10 variants?
    I am wondering if the colour that my mate and I are fond of is an aftermarket colour which stems from certain restorations? Below are a few images so you can hopefully see what I am getting at;








    There is definitely some sort of gold tints or similar to these. I'm not disagreeing, but find it hard to believe this is a common monitor or camera lighting trickery compared to, say, this 'colour':




    Again, I appreciate, I haven't actually seen the car in question so find this very difficult to pin down.

    (In addition, I must say Kev's C10 can vary in shade throughout his project thread update images. Is this the answer to the whole thing? It is in fact the same?)

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    Re: Hako Colour codes/names?

    Quote Originally Posted by Con2K
    Do you have access to the technical literature for the C10? Having spoken to the guy who owns the paint shop, he is confident he can mix sympathetically, if he has something to go off.
    I'll write out the formula for the KPGC10 'Glare Silver Metallic' when I get a chance. Bear with me.

    However, that stock KPGC10 is not the bronzey-tinted silver metallic I think you are looking for. I know the shade you mean, but I'm sure it's not a stock factory colour on the C10-series.

    I'll ask a few friends in Japan who should know, and get back to you on it...

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    Just an FYI that bronze tint on some of the eGarage studio pictures is a function of camera setting for effect, and is not a reproduction of the actual color. I should also note that the actual color is probably not a faithful reproduction of the original color, and is probably too nice a paint job to look factory anyways.

    I've spent years myself chasing down paint codes on other cars, only to find it next to impossible to replicate old paint colors with modern formulas. It will just never look the same. The best solution I've found is to buy some old "paint sample" books from the 60's on eBay (some paint stores also may have a few old books), pick a color you like, and have a paint shop do their best to color match to those with modern paint.

    Af Alan's contacts can produce a formula that translates into paints available where you are, then you're way ahead of the game. But I'll also note that even something like the color of primer has a huge effect on the final color of the paint- I've seen cars sprayed with different primers and the same final colors, and each panel ended up a different hue!

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    Re: Hako Colour codes/names?

    I know this thread is old but anyway...

    An extremely close paint code to what you're describing is IMO

    Lamorghini titanium silver


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