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    A.M.E.C. Economy Run III - Fonda, NY 8-23-09



    Hello JNC enthusiasts, the Adirondack Motor Enthusiast Club would like to invite you to participate in Economy Run III.

    For those of you who haven't modified your cars for speed, here is an event that will reward those of us who've restored our Japanese economy cars and left them stock. Here's an event that will showcase the main design intent of our cars in the first place.....economy! My B210 logged 61.5 mpg last October and I am aiming for 70 this summer with additional aero and mechanical mods. C'mon out and join us this August 23rd.

    What: Fuel mileage contest through the southern Adirondacks of NY. The route will be on really scenic and challenging roads [mild grades] and will run approx. 94 miles in distance. Your ďeconomicĒ driving ability will be tested. Cars will be filled with fuel by an AMEC official and be sent off at one minute intervals. There will be a time limit to complete the run. Any street legal vehicle is allowed to participate, [including motorcycles]. This event will run rain or shine.

    Where: The starting spot will be at the [ethanol free] Fairway Oil gas station on Route 5 in Fonda, NY. Take NY Thruway Exit 28. After the toll booth, turn left onto Riverside Drive. Then turn right onto South Bridge Street and go over the bridge. On the other side of the bridge is a traffic light. You can see Fairway Oil and Gas on your left. Turn left onto Route 5 and enter the station.

    When: Sunday, August 23rd, 2009. Arrival time will be 8:00-8:30am, first car off at 9:00am. They have gas and diesel and have a large enough parking lot that we wonít be in the way.

    Cost: $10 per vehicle plus $8 per car for lunch at the awards picnic by the lake. [see "Awards" below]

    Awards include:

    1. Best overall mpg for gas cars [1st, 2nd, and 3rd places]

    2. Best overall mpg for diesel and hybrid cars [1st, 2nd, and 3rd places]

    3. Best Historic car ['79 and earlier - 1st, 2nd, and 3rd places].

    Note: If we get more than one motorcycle we will add a class for them.

    Finish: will be at the Citgo located at 746 NY-30, in Northville. They are less than a mile from Northampton Beach Campground and their lot is plenty big. It will be on your right as you're heading on Route 30 south in Northville.

    Awards and Lunch: This event will conclude about noon, and we will be having our A.M.E.C. summer picnic immediately following the event. All Economy run participants are invited to join us for awards and a picnic lunch at Northampton Beach Campground located on Housmann Street, in Mayfield, [it's actually closer to Northville] NY. Their website is HERE. Scroll to the bottom of the page to find the map links. The picnic pavilion and beach are right on the shore of beautiful Sacandaga lake. Hamburgers, hot dogs, and soda will be served. This park is only about a mile from the Citgo station where the event concluded.

    To register for this event: Please contact Mike Kamm at (518) 674-0520 or via email: mikek [at ]icerace [ dot] com. Or just simply reply to this thread with your name, year/model car. The vehicle count will be limited so please sign up before this event is full.

    Registered driver's list as of 7-1-09

    1. Mike Kamm - 1977 Datsun B210 - Averill Park, NY
    2. Tom Moeller - 1994 Mazda Miata - Saratoga, NY
    3. Dave Burnham - 1991 Eco Diesel Jetta - Delanson, NY
    4. Ben Jones - 1991 Honda CRX - Hanover, NH
    5. Dick Vedder - 2000 Ford ZX2 S/R - Johnstown, NY
    6. Martin Deschenes - 2000 VW Jetta TDI - Quebec City, QC
    7. Ron Kienhuis - 1972 CitroŽn SM - Long Island, NY
    8. Vlad Saakyan - 2003 Suzuki Svs650 - 518 forums
    9. Bill Clark - 1957 Metropolitan Hartop - Endicott, NY
    10. Bruce Turk- 1958 Saab 93B - Walden, NY
    11. Ernie Yue - 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250cc
    12. Dan & Richard Dobbins - 1964 Studebaker GT Hawk - Long Island, NY
    13. Matt Herring - 2009 Toyota Prius - Boston, MA
    14. Robert Smalls - 2000 Honda Insight - Buffalo, NY
    15. Peter Ramotowski - 2000 VW Golf TDI - Albany, NY
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    There is a link to last year's event thread located HERE.

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    Yesterday we had a distinguished guest sign up. Ben Jones of Ecomodder will be bringing his highly modified [for fuel mileage] 1991 Honda CRX from Hanover, NH. Ben said he will have some "wicked aeromods" on his CRX for this event. Keep in mind that he's regularly logging over 61 mpg before the planned areo mods. So it will be really exciting to see what Ben's CRX can do at our event. He's got a great website showcasing his CRX mods here: http://www.crxmpg.com/. He swapped in a D15Z1 engine from a Civic VX, which has both vtec-e and lean burn. This, combined with a tall geared HX transaxle, allows his CRX to make some fantastic mpg numbers.


    I'll be shooting for 70 mpg at this event with my Datsun B210. Going all out, with a full belly pan, 155/80R13 tires, all synthetic lubricants, lowered suspension, final drive changed from 3.70's to 3.54's, even Moon disc wheel covers for less drag. So we're both going in with similar mpg numbers [low 60's] before our aero mods. Should be interesting.


    P.S. I sourced these rare NGK plugs on ebay also. They are the factory issue Datsun 210 "MPG" model spark plugs for special 1979 fuel economy models. Hey, what the heck right? :mrgreen:

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    Sounds like a fun event.

    Also, those plugs are wild! :tu:

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    Thanks Ben,

    I know that many here are only interested in performance [I am too] but I also enjoy the little economy cars for what they were originally designer for. Let's face it, most of us spend out energies in trying to make fast cars out of cars that didn't start out fast at all. I've been doing that for 25 years.

    But in this case I've gone in the ultimate economy direction with my B210 and am really enjoying the technical side of the build as well as the challenge.

    I'm hoping I'm not alone.

    Mike

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    This event is popular and is starting to fill up. I've updated the driver's roster on the the first post.

    I's sure like to see some Japanese classics to come and join my B210 in this fun tour through the mountains. There are so many good cars for this, the early Corollas, Datsun 1200's, Civics, etc.

    Mike

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    Hope you hit the 70's!! Post pics of the event and share the joy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capital15
    Hope you hit the 70's!! Post pics of the event and share the joy!
    I'll be giving it my best try for sure.

    I am preparing my B210 for next weekend's Economy Run event. I took a look at my front brakes this afternoon. I raised the car up, made a chalk mark on the tires, and gave the wheels a "spin test" [by hand] and counted only 3 revolutions on each front wheel. So I decided to take them apart and clean them.


    I lubed the slides and found an NOS hardware kit in my basement. I took advantage of the kit's extra parts to add a second spring between the pads to help them release more completely. Normally there is only a single spring on only one of the pins. I pumped up the brake pedal and gave it another spin test afterwards. This time the wheels spun 6 2/3rds revolutions afterwards. Must have helped reduce drag a little.

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    Yesterday I mounted the "economy" wheel/tire package [155/80R13's @ 50 psi] today. Next, I installed my home made chin spoiler [cut from a scrap Ford Contour front bumper cover] and blended in the edges with tape. Afterwards I put it up on blocks [yes I know cement blocks aren't safe - don't try this at home] to gain access to the entire undercarriage for belley pan fabricating/fitting. I then began to fabricate the forward belly pan section.


    This is now fitted under the car and I completed the main portion of the belly pan today. Lot's of time and energy went into it, but the result is quite nice. The header collector hangs down lower than anything else under the car. I knew this going in, so I had to decide whether to work around it and allow the exhaust system to be exposed, or lower the entire belly pan and close it in completely. I measured the height of the bottom of the chin spoiler to the floor and it was the same as the height of the header. So I decided to enclose the exhaust system in and have a perfectly flat belly pan front to back.


    I used aluminum tubing to space the pan to clear the header and pipe. I did not drill any holes in the car at all. I pressed plastic anchor bushings into pre-existing holes in the bottom of the frame rails. I used thin aluminum sheets [cut from food catering trays] as a heat sheild under the exhaust system. Not pretty but it should work fine and you won't be able to see it when this the side skirts are installed.


    Tomorrow I will fabricate the side skirts to close it all up. The rear of the pan slipped nicely under the rear valance panel. Again, there were no holes drilled in the car at all for this project. That's why it took a bit more time to do. I had to get creative to preserve the integrity of the car. I will try to get some finished pics tomorrow, but a black pan will be very hard to photograph. The bottom of the car is now completely smooth and flat for lower aerodynamic drag.

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    Here's the finalized driver's list by class:

    Gas class

    1. Mike Kamm - 1977 Datsun B210 - Averill Park, NY
    2. Tom Moeller - 1994 Mazda Miata - Saratoga, NY
    3. Ben Jones - 1991 Honda CRX - Hanover, NH
    4. Richard Vedder - 2000 Ford ZX2 S/R - Johnstown, NY
    5. Eric Hoefer - 2008 Honda Fit - Guilderland, NY
    6. Ryan Kramer - 1988 Toyota MR2 Supercharged - Albany NY
    7. Chang Ho Kim - 89 Honda CRX - Maynard, MA
    8. Darin Cosgrove - 1998 Pontiac Firefly - Ontario, Canada
    9. Jeff Morgan - 1992 240sx - Rotterdam, NY
    10. Tom Compoli - 1981 VW Rabbit - Schenectady, NY

    Diesel and Hybrids

    1. Dave Burnham -1991 Eco Diesel Jetta - Delanson, NY
    2. Martin Deschenes - 2000 VW Jetta TDI - Quebec City, QC
    3. Peter Ramotowski - 2000 VW Golf TDI - Albany, NY
    4. Dan Mandle - 2004 Golf TDI [Vegetable Oil] - Potsdam, NY
    5. Matt Herring - 2009 Toyota Prius - Boston, MA
    6. Robert Smalls - 2000 Honda Insight - Buffalo, NY
    7. Hobbit - 2004 Toyota Prius - Boston, MA

    Historic class

    1. Bill Clark - 1957 Metropolitan Hartop - Endicott, NY
    2. Ron Kienhuis - 1972 CitroŽn SM - Long Island, NY
    3. Bruce Turk- 1958 Saab 93B - Walden, NY
    4. Dan & Richard Dobbins - 1964 Studebaker GT Hawk - Long Island, NY
    5. Jonathan Bartlett - 1969 Saab Sonett V-4 - Sterling, MA
    6. Carl Germain - 1950 Studebaker Champion Business Coupe

    Motorcycles/Scooters

    1. Vlad Saakyan - 2003 Suzuki Svs650 - Schenectady, NY
    2. Ernie Yue - 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250cc
    3. Sachs 50cc Madass scooter

    Note: I am purposely not running in the Historic class where the B210 belongs. I have decided I want to compete at the highest level and take on the new high tech hybrids and direct injected diesels too. Can an old pushrod equipped and carbureted antique take on the big dogs with electric motors, fuel injection, and lean burn systems? We'll soon find out.

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    very cool belly pan...

    I like this idea a lot.
    too bad it's in new york.

    :tu:

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