We can't have one for EVERY make. :POriginally Posted by Union76
Now if you can get a bunch of Isuzu guys in here, we'll talk. 8)
see what I can do..... no guarantees though.
I might just flash your web site address on a few sites that I am on and if anyone joins here so be it.
otherwise all hell could break lose.......
Here's an idea, let's trim the Forum Garages down to four based on the American Redneck System:Originally Posted by datsunfreak
Then everyone here can be equally discriminated against just like everywhere else. :P
Then, maybe we could all work for a couple decades to build a broad aftermarket offering parts for all makes and models, only to have the parts clerk ask the eternal question "What year Civic are you working on?". Oh, wait, that's the screwed up state of the world as it is now...
Watch the howls when it is suggested that one of the existing forum marques be removed, and that is the way those of us who are perpetually in the "Other" category feel. Think about that before sniping.
It has always amazed me how groups of owners can transition from unaccepted niche status to mainstream, then turn around to the remaining unaccepted niche group and treat them with just as much disrespect as they had only a few months or years prior.
In the US, we put up with "Is it Ford, Chevy, or Dodge?", as the question from the parts clerk.
Sport Compact Car magazine hit the shelves, and the first three cover cars were VW Scirocco, Ford Escort (the crappy US Escort, not the Cosworth), and Geo Storm (Isuzu Gemini Coupe), There were a lot of Hyundai Scoupes mixed in there too. It was a stereo and custom body work magazine, with a little performance thrown in, well, if you could call ripping out the fuel injection and installing a carburetor a performance upgrade. There were early Z cars, Supras, and RX-7s as the exotic car ideal. But 240SX and Starion were criticized as having truck engines. Subaru? - the Justy. Mitsubishi? - the Colt. Neither exactly inspiring for the time.
No Hondas anywhere to be seen, this was before the Californians figured out that they could redesign every single engine component to keep them from blowing up if you tried to push them, and then redesigned every suspension component so they wouldn't flip over going down the quarter mile. But Honda was the first to be accepted, and it took all those parts to keep the cars from scattering parts all over the track, a market grew, and the parts guy changed his question to: "Is that Ford, Chevy, Dodge, or Honda?" Nothing else was worthy of owning or working on, and anyone foolish enough to spend money on something else was wasting their money.
VW developed a market. Subaru and Mitsubishi introduced powerful cars, lending credibility to their previous models. Nissan and Toyota did the same.
The rest of us? Remember that Ford Escort and Geo Storm from the Sport Compact Car magazine covers? No one else does. The rest of us were left out in the cold to fend for ourselves.
A lot of this has to do with high school kids and rice boy mentality, but I see some of the same sneaking into this website too. Look at the "Is your car a classic?" thread. It quickly transitioned from owners explaining how proud they were of their own car, to people shooting down other people's cars because they didn't have chrome bumpers or did have fuel injection. So, because a company continues using old technology, their cars continue to be classics a decade past the other forward thinking companies who embrace new technology? Pretty thin argument for exclusion, and exclusion in website catering to such a deep niche is just too hypocritical.
Is it practical to have a separate board for every single marque? How many marques are there in Japan? Maybe it isn't practical. But that doesn't make it right, any more than it would be to suggest that the forums catering to larger groups of owners should be removed. One thing to remember, though, exclude any group or relegate them to the "Other" category, and they won't come here and grow in this community in numbers that will show a need for their own forum outside the "Other" category.
I "sniped" at no one. Lighten up a bit.Originally Posted by JT191
About 3-4 times as many as we currently have specific sections for.Is it practical to have a separate board for every single marque? How many marques are there in Japan?
I disagree. I give most people more credit than that.One thing to remember, though, exclude any group or relegate them to the "Other" category, and they won't come here and grow in this community in numbers that will show a need for their own forum outside the "Other" category.
Now, this is just my opinon, but let me say this as far as "individual garages" go. There are many great model or brand specific forums out there that cater to those cars and therefor have greater activity. What I think is great about this site is the cross section of owners from other forums whose advise we would not normally have access to on a vehicle specific forum. Just because someone is into Datsuns now does not mean at some point in time they weren't big into Mitsu's and have a wealth of knowledge that would not be available on a Datsun specific forum. I mean, would you go to Ratsun for Suburu information? But, that Ratsun member may also come here and be able to offer insight on the question due to the fact he/she may have worked for a Suby dealer 20 years ago. I may be off base on the *purpose* of this forum, but I feel this is where the strength of this forum is- the cross section of members from other sites coming together here. I know I recognize many screen names from all maner of other import sites. Strength in numbers. Anyways, while there may not be specific garages for certain makes, I don't think that is a hinderance in members not looking in there. There is just not enough in that particular make/model to justify a separate area for 1-2 posts a month when there is most likely a owners group somewhere that *may* be a better source for info?
Despite being an Isuzu fan, a seperate forum may be over the top just a little bit...
Now, back on topic, Union76 is a sellout/softcock [pardon the french]. He sold his Gemini to drive plastic fantastic. Tell em about your Skyline mike
I should also blame mike for making me bankrupt - i bought his ex-girlfriends Gemini and ive been in debt ever since. Ill post a thread up about that soon.
Mike, if you read this, give us a buzz next time your in the northern suburbs if you want to take a squiz at the old girl.