Comments on: Goertz Myths Will Never Die, Part II

By: Mr Camouflage

Mr Camouflage — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:29:30 +0000

Perhaps he means the CSP311, which was also not designed by Goertz.

By: HoTWire

HoTWire — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:52:53 +0000

It amazes me that this continues to go round and round and round again.

I get the feeling that even if a definative book were written on the subject, still this stuff would persist. Which is a shame.

The first 310 wasn’t as awesome as the later 310 … *cough*, just me that thinks that then…

By: KPGC10-001218

KPGC10-001218 — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:40:09 +0000

Oh yeah, and the 310 was a “failure” according to whom – and in what terms?

By: KPGC10-001218

KPGC10-001218 — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:38:04 +0000

Of course the short answer to that is that Goertz himself planted the seeds of these stories ( in an effort to improve his CV and make something useful out of his Japanese sojourns ) and that others have watered and tended the myths that grew out of them. Goertz was in a position to correct the exaggerations of his stories that were written by others, but chose not to. He may even have grown to actually believe half of it. And by the way, I believe Goertz did NOT actually receive any financial settlement from Nissan in connection with the out of court agreement ( although – once again – he told people that he DID, just to make himself sound like the ‘winner’ ) and amazingly people still point at the letter as “proof” in favour of Goertz. Unbelievable!

If you guys have still got any energy left after all this Goertz stuff, there’s a whole other parallel universe of nonsense going on with the hijacking of the S30-series Z as “An American Car, Made In Japan” ( to quote zhome.com ). This is almost as bad – and just as spurious – as all that Goertz garbage, and seriously needs to be put back into the proper context. I’d say that such work is meat and gravy for a site called JAPANESE Nostalgic Car, with the vision and perspective to see these cars as families of models with shared DNA and interwoven stories rather than the zhome.com schtick of looking at single models for single markets and preaching that there’s only ‘one’ story and all the rest is “irrelevant”. More bad seeds being planted there…….

By: Vintage JDM - Classic Japanese Cars

Vintage JDM - Classic Japanese Cars — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:53:03 +0000

LOL @ KPGC10-001218’s comment.

….Goertz did NOT design the 310! Where DOES all this Goertz nonsense come from for heaven’s sake?…..

I think Nissan have been asking that question for a while.

By: Ben

Ben — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:44:36 +0000

Gah! Look at the comment by Steve Neil, who now believes the S30 and 2000GT were designed by the same individual:
http://blog.cardomain.com/2009/01/27/stand-up-and-be-counted-did-goertz-design-the-2000gt/#comments

This is why we took issue with their wording!

By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:31:23 +0000

word to yo mother!