Comments on: Return of the RWD Celica? http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/2008/02/05/return-of-the-rwd-celica/ The official blog of Japanese Nostalgic Car magazine Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:36:37 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ross Farnham http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/2008/02/05/return-of-the-rwd-celica/comment-page-1/#comment-7470 Ross Farnham Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:44:20 +0000 http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/2008/02/05/return-of-the-rwd-celica/#comment-7470 I don't want the Subie engine is this car, poor fuel economy for one thing, hard to work on. Toyota needs a good high revving inline 4 or even the current 2.4 with a turbo with at least 250hp would be better. It can be a Celica or Corolla- I don't care what they call it- I've owned, loved and raced many of both. Keep it light, good looking please!!!, 2 door, hatch with good suspension, std LSD and under $20K and Toyota will sell millions. I don't get the Subie/ Toyota joint venture idea here, make it all Toyota. I don’t want the Subie engine is this car, poor fuel economy for one thing, hard to work on. Toyota needs a good high revving inline 4 or even the current 2.4 with a turbo with at least 250hp would be better. It can be a Celica or Corolla- I don’t care what they call it- I’ve owned, loved and raced many of both. Keep it light, good looking please!!!, 2 door, hatch with good suspension, std LSD and under $20K and Toyota will sell millions.

I don’t get the Subie/ Toyota joint venture idea here, make it all Toyota.

]]> By: Japanese Nostalgic Car - Blog » Blog Archive » Toyota-Subaru RWD Confirmed http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/2008/02/05/return-of-the-rwd-celica/comment-page-1/#comment-4309 Japanese Nostalgic Car - Blog » Blog Archive » Toyota-Subaru RWD Confirmed Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:30:25 +0000 http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/2008/02/05/return-of-the-rwd-celica/#comment-4309 [...] going on sale in late 2010 and the Toyota version in early 2011. The only question now is, Corolla, Celica, or something else? If the rumors of the Celica revival are true, we would sacrifice our first [...] [...] going on sale in late 2010 and the Toyota version in early 2011. The only question now is, Corolla, Celica, or something else? If the rumors of the Celica revival are true, we would sacrifice our first [...]

]]> By: Arthur Roberts http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/2008/02/05/return-of-the-rwd-celica/comment-page-1/#comment-4047 Arthur Roberts Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:38:46 +0000 http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/2008/02/05/return-of-the-rwd-celica/#comment-4047 Very intresting debate. I say we want EVO3 speed, Sounds like a Boxer, Looks like a AE86 or First Gen. Celica . Give us a pure tuners car 250-300 hp, Factory Coilovers that adjust, Recaro seats, 2 airbags,RWD, 0-60 in 14sec flat (from showroom) 2500 lbs MAX, and lots of after market parts, thats what kills me you can find every thing for a CEVIC or INTEGRA on the net and speeds shops they can start with the SCION TC drivetrain and take it from there. Lets hope they read our blogs mates. Very intresting debate. I say we want EVO3 speed, Sounds like a Boxer, Looks like a AE86 or First Gen. Celica . Give us a pure tuners car 250-300 hp, Factory Coilovers that adjust, Recaro seats, 2 airbags,RWD, 0-60 in 14sec flat (from showroom) 2500 lbs MAX, and lots of after market parts, thats what kills me you can find every thing for a CEVIC or INTEGRA on the net and speeds shops they can start with the SCION TC drivetrain and take it from there. Lets hope they read our blogs mates.

]]> By: big d http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/2008/02/05/return-of-the-rwd-celica/comment-page-1/#comment-3278 big d Mon, 25 Feb 2008 16:40:41 +0000 http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/2008/02/05/return-of-the-rwd-celica/#comment-3278 I really hope that toyota doesn't drop the ball on this one. The market really needs an affordable, lightweight, rear wheel drive car that isn't a damn roadster like the mx-5, s2000 or the solstice/sky. It wouldn't be that difficult for them build it. Make it a coupe or a liftback. Most hatchbacks or 5 doors look ugly nowadays. I mean look at the new Impreza. Gross. It has to be a 2 door. Absolutely MUST be a 2 door. Toyota can't make the same mistake Dodge did with it's current Charger. Take the 2.4L from the Scion tC/xB. Adapt it for RWD. Leave it N/A (I'm thinkin' ITB's), or drop the compression and bolt a turbo on that sucker. I don't want the boxer engine. Take the manual transmission from the Tacoma or develop a new 6 speed tranny. Take the rear axle from the Tacoma or develop a new IRS. Work out the rest of the kinks. They can do it. It's Toyota. Problem solved. Offer a bare bones model for the purists/enthusiasts and a luxury model with power everything and leather for the average customers. Basically I just want a modern AE86 or A60 Celica. The parts are all there. The bean counters would be happy and the enthusiasts would be happy. It would draw more younger customers to Toyota and there could be plenty of TRD parts developed for the platform. All around happiness. I really hope that toyota doesn’t drop the ball on this one. The market really needs an affordable, lightweight, rear wheel drive car that isn’t a damn roadster like the mx-5, s2000 or the solstice/sky. It wouldn’t be that difficult for them build it. Make it a coupe or a liftback. Most hatchbacks or 5 doors look ugly nowadays. I mean look at the new Impreza. Gross.

It has to be a 2 door. Absolutely MUST be a 2 door. Toyota can’t make the same mistake Dodge did with it’s current Charger.

Take the 2.4L from the Scion tC/xB. Adapt it for RWD. Leave it N/A (I’m thinkin’ ITB’s), or drop the compression and bolt a turbo on that sucker. I don’t want the boxer engine.

Take the manual transmission from the Tacoma or develop a new 6 speed tranny.

Take the rear axle from the Tacoma or develop a new IRS.

Work out the rest of the kinks. They can do it. It’s Toyota. Problem solved.

Offer a bare bones model for the purists/enthusiasts and a luxury model with power everything and leather for the average customers.

Basically I just want a modern AE86 or A60 Celica. The parts are all there. The bean counters would be happy and the enthusiasts would be happy. It would draw more younger customers to Toyota and there could be plenty of TRD parts developed for the platform. All around happiness.

]]> By: Jnostalgics http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/2008/02/05/return-of-the-rwd-celica/comment-page-1/#comment-2894 Jnostalgics Mon, 11 Feb 2008 00:02:34 +0000 http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/2008/02/05/return-of-the-rwd-celica/#comment-2894 Lol, Matrix = anomaly. Good analysis though. Agreed, there does seem to be a gaping hole in the sporty car area of their lineup. Arguably, the Scion tC can cover that, but we mourn the days when Toyota had a sporty Supra, Corolla, Celica, and MR2 all at once. Sigh... Lol, Matrix = anomaly. Good analysis though. Agreed, there does seem to be a gaping hole in the sporty car area of their lineup. Arguably, the Scion tC can cover that, but we mourn the days when Toyota had a sporty Supra, Corolla, Celica, and MR2 all at once. Sigh…

]]> By: Tosco http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/2008/02/05/return-of-the-rwd-celica/comment-page-1/#comment-2893 Tosco Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:32:29 +0000 http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/2008/02/05/return-of-the-rwd-celica/#comment-2893 Of course the corolla is the highest selling car in toyota's lineup. It's the best selling car in history. But that doesnt mean that it should take precident as the first car to be released by this project. Sports cars always sell in lower numbers. How many Corvettes did Chevrolet sell as opposed to say, Cavaliers? Lol, but its the Corvette that Chevrolet uses to build their reputation, and so Toyota needs a sports car to fill that gap. Thats the natural balance of things historically. A well rounded company needs A large family sedan A small family sedan A van A full Size truck A midsize truck A light truck A full size SUV A light SUV A high powered sports car An affordable sports car An economy car That's a well rounded Automotive company. Now lets look at Toyota. 3 large family sedans-----------Avalon, Camry, Camry Solara 1 small family sedan------------Corolla 1 van-------------------------------Sienna 1 full Size truck-------------------Tundra 1 midsize truck-------------------Tacoma 0 light trucks----------------------NA 5 full size SUVs-------------------4runner, FJ Cruiser, Highlander, Landcruiser, Sequoia 1 light SUV------------------------Rav4 0 high powered sports car----NA 0 affordable sports car---------NA 1 economy car-------------------Yaris 1 green car/electric hybrid----Prius 1 Anomoly------------------------Matrix What are they planning to add to their Line-up? A crown, and another matrix type car called the Venza. Wow. So just more of the same. How boring. Meanwhile Nissan will release, or rather unleash, the unanswered GTR on North America and Toyota will once again be sitting quaint and fat in the corner. Strange days indeed... :S Of course the corolla is the highest selling car in toyota’s lineup. It’s the best selling car in history. But that doesnt mean that it should take precident as the first car to be released by this project. Sports cars always sell in lower numbers. How many Corvettes did Chevrolet sell as opposed to say, Cavaliers? Lol, but its the Corvette that Chevrolet uses to build their reputation, and so Toyota needs a sports car to fill that gap. Thats the natural balance of things historically. A well rounded company needs
A large family sedan
A small family sedan
A van
A full Size truck
A midsize truck
A light truck
A full size SUV
A light SUV
A high powered sports car
An affordable sports car
An economy car

That’s a well rounded Automotive company. Now lets look at Toyota.

3 large family sedans———–Avalon, Camry, Camry Solara
1 small family sedan————Corolla
1 van——————————-Sienna
1 full Size truck——————-Tundra
1 midsize truck——————-Tacoma
0 light trucks———————-NA
5 full size SUVs——————-4runner, FJ Cruiser, Highlander, Landcruiser, Sequoia
1 light SUV————————Rav4
0 high powered sports car—-NA
0 affordable sports car———NA
1 economy car——————-Yaris
1 green car/electric hybrid—-Prius
1 Anomoly————————Matrix

What are they planning to add to their Line-up? A crown, and another matrix type car called the Venza. Wow. So just more of the same. How boring. Meanwhile Nissan will release, or rather unleash, the unanswered GTR on North America and Toyota will once again be sitting quaint and fat in the corner. Strange days indeed… :S

]]> By: Jnostalgics http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/2008/02/05/return-of-the-rwd-celica/comment-page-1/#comment-2849 Jnostalgics Sat, 09 Feb 2008 10:18:25 +0000 http://japanesenostalgiccar.com/blog/2008/02/05/return-of-the-rwd-celica/#comment-2849 Wow, diverse range of opinions here. We like! :) Right or wrong, the main reason Toyota might want to use the Subaru engine is because they have no more 4-cylinder RWD drivetrains ready to go. The idea of a Subaru engine may not appeal to all, but maybe it's worth it if it can quickly bring the car to market. At least it'll have a cool exhaust note :). I think we can all agree that a retro-styled RWD Celica (or Corolla) would be fantastic though! Wow, diverse range of opinions here. We like! :)

Right or wrong, the main reason Toyota might want to use the Subaru engine is because they have no more 4-cylinder RWD drivetrains ready to go. The idea of a Subaru engine may not appeal to all, but maybe it’s worth it if it can quickly bring the car to market. At least it’ll have a cool exhaust note :) . I think we can all agree that a retro-styled RWD Celica (or Corolla) would be fantastic though!

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